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The Unexplained I'm your host Lana

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Stricker and thanks for joining me

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so tonight I've got two of my favorite

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guys on here tonight and I know these

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gentlemen now for quite a while we've

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exchanged a lot of a lot of stories a

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lot of

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a great radio show as well so Cal

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philson was born in Fort Worth Texas his

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mother and father were lifelong

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residents in New Jersey and moved South

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only a few years before he's burnt

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to seek a Better Living growing up in

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rural Texas in a small town outside of

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the Dallas Fort Worth Metroplex Kyle

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spent a lot of his time in the woods

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hunting fishing and camping

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his father and uncles first sparked his

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early interest in the Paranormal

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watching shows like Unsolved Mystery in

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search of along with reading numerous

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books by John Keel Ivan T Sanderson Cal

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became fascinated with UFOs Bigfoot Time

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Slips and parallel universes

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keeping an open mind and exploring these

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topics he strives to present these

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stories and experiences shared by only a

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few and a fun and lighthearted way and a

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cow currently lives in Texas with his

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wife and three sons

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was born and raised in Texas and comes

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from a long Family Heritage Texans that

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can be traced back to before the Lone

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Star State gained its independence and

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growing up in the rural Country Town he

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spent the majority of his time Outdoors

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receiving his first taste of archery at

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the age of five he started down a path

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to led him into solo camping and hunting

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trips across the state as well as many

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other states

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like most is fascination with the

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strange and unusual started young with

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shows like search of and Unsolved

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Mysteries diving deeper into these

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subjects at his local library only feel

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the Flames that led to him to where he

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is today and with an open mind

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Adventures heart cam looks to present

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the stories of the strange

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in a fun and intriguing manner so cam

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still lives in the great state of Texas

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with his wife and two children and the

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show has expanded uh perspectives if you

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do get a chance to to look at it

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sometime please do it's a great show so

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guys

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thanks for coming on tonight Nan thank

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you thanks man glad to be here

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you know we correspond a lot but I

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haven't had you on in about two years

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that's right yeah I I know it the

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scheduling is a bear so that you know

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that's the biggest problem but I know

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you guys are busy on Friday nights

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so uh we started doing some Wednesdays

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so that's where we got you on so

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um

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yeah so what's been going on lately what

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you guys been looking into you know I

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know you guys getting in these tangents

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with with certain subjects uh just like

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you did with the Glimmer Man years ago

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and that kind of but mainstream

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uh what's some of what people are

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man we've been getting a lot of stuff

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sent to us about we still get the

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Glimmer Man stuff but we've been getting

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a lot of stuff sent to us about the pale

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crawlers recently like within the last

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few months and

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it's one of those things

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I don't know it's like Kyle and I was

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discussing like they bring up the rake

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and the history of the rig they try to

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trace back to Creepypasta but then we

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start seeing these things where people

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are reporting like no that's exactly

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what I saw or some resemblance to what

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was originally reported so then it

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starts making you think well did it did

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it take that form or did this

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Creepypasta riding actually come from

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something an experience someone had

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something that was going on and that's

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what got it going or is it all thought

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forms is it the fact that everybody

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thinking and dwelling and seeing is

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what's created it that's one of them

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that spiked up pretty good and then we

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still get the Glimmer Man stuff right

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those still trickle in from time to time

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and they're still just as unexplained

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like I feel out of everything that we've

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all discussed the Glimmer Man seems to

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be the thing that we absolutely know the

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least about like it's just almost like

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smoke it just passes and then that's it

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like because there's they don't see

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anything you see nothing exactly you

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don't see really anything manifest yeah

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it's weird I um I've heard so many

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different stories about from people who

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have seen the you know the the

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glimmering effect the glass scene-like

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effect

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and uh you and I were to we were talking

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about this before the show about you

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know the origins of the predator and uh

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tell us about that a bit you you

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mentioned something about heinekson

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being involved with this

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uh yeah apparently Jay Allen heineck's

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son uh worked on the production set of

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the very first Predator movie so it has

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to make you wonder you know did his

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father uh you know tell him something as

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a small child that he remembered that

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helped and that helped create that idea

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of what the Predator should look like

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when it's cloaking itself maybe it's

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just a coincidence but you know there

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are sightings where sometimes people see

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glowing yellow eyes there are sightings

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where it has glowing red eyes and

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there's a lot of signs where they don't

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see eyes at all and like we were talking

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before we were on the air

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when it comes to the Glimmer Man I've

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heard all types of theories whether it's

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in fact Bigfoot has the ability to cloak

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itself it in fact some type of top

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secret military camouflage system

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they've developed I've even heard that

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it's extraterrestrials just like the

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movie Predator where it's camouflaging

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itself I've heard that it's time

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travelers and when you go back in time

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it creates this shimmering or glimmering

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effect and someone in the future can go

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back and explore what the world was like

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say in 2023 and but if people see you

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that's what it looks like and then I've

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heard the possibility that it's Faye

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that it start uh it falls in line with a

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lot of early fairy encounters where a

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lot of people talk about that have the

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sightings of these gnomes or do Wendy's

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or whatever name Sprite whatever you

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want whatever they want to go by depends

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on the region in the world where these

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Fair encountered

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it's almost like

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the FAE are shocked that you can see

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them and that's very similar to a lot of

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these Glimmer Man sightings I've read so

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many where somebody's out hunting

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someone's out just for a walk with their

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dog someone is just you know working

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outside and all of a sudden something

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catches their eye they look in the trees

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and they see this blurry looking

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silhouette of something that's shaped

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like a man it's not gigantic proportions

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most the time it's the average size of

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an adult man like six foot sometimes

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their sightings or they're larger but

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sometimes I think people are a little

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freaked out so you know they think it's

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bigger but and then almost every time

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when the creature or whatever it is

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notices that you see it it like freezes

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and then usually like tries to run away

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I've never had an encounter or I've

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never heard of an encounter where the

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thing is aggressive where it tries to

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harm anyone there was one sighting that

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was sent to us where a kid was playing

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in his backyard

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and didn't see it but like ran into it

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and knocked down and it like picked him

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up

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and held him for a second but it didn't

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try to hurt him so I don't and a lot of

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the stories when it comes to fairy

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stories are the same way people see

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these things and it's like the the FAE

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will be like oh crap you're not supposed

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to be able to see me why do you see me

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and then they slink off into the woods

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and run away you know so it's kind of

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like that I don't know Perhaps it is

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extraterrestrial perhaps Bigfoot can

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clone itself perhaps Bigfoot's an

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extraterrestrial answers

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but the sightings uh are definitely

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increasing I don't know if the volume of

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sightings are increasing or the

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reporting of them but we've definitely

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you know five years ago we would get one

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two a year and then now I would say

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we've we probably get 15 20 a year now

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yeah you guys have sent me a few really

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good ones over the years and um

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I've gotten a few from other people but

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it's and debris thanks for your uh

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support I very much appreciate it and uh

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I I don't know I there's got to be a

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Nexus to this somehow

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um you know this is something about

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about a decade ago

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Stan Gordon and I were talking

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because we we talk a lot about sightings

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here in Pennsylvania and he started

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mentioning to me that

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you know he said did you do you notice

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that people are starting to see these

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Bigfoot now he's talking about Bigfoot

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in particular but seeing Bigfoot and

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when they look at them

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the Bigfoot looks back at him like their

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surprise they're seeing them you know

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like they're shocked they're they're

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being seen and they I mean they they

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make an extra effort to get out you know

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to take off somewhere and uh many times

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he just simply disappear

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and um

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I started I started thinking about it

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and yeah of course this is about the

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time this Glimmer Man stuff started

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coming well it had it was before that

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but it you know as time has gone on and

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if people have told me about their

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sightings of Bigfoot and where they just

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seemed simply seem to manifest from

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nowhere

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you gotta Wonder well is is this Glimmer

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Man affect something related to it

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it

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gotten like Kyle had talked about where

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they've been in people's bedrooms or in

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the middle of town and they catch

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something the ones Outdoors do have the

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Hallmark of it but it's also strange

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because we get reports of different

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sizes you get some reported nothing is

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massive like I don't remember us getting

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reports of any of them that are like

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eight ten foot tall massives no they all

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seem to be five to six Footers which I

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guess could be juvenile if you wanted to

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go that route could be juvenile could be

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something along those lines it always

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makes me wonder how many we've gone

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walking past that nobody's ever seen

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because it only seems like they they

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view them or they catch glimpses of them

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while they're moving whether it's while

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they're following people or something

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along those lines of while they're

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tracking watching whatever it's almost

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like they kind of accidentally give

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themselves away right that's whenever

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people start noticing them so I wonder

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if that's whenever people are discussing

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things of feeling like someone's being

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watched in the woods but they look

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around and there's nothing because

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unless you were glassing unless you were

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setting up with some really good

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binoculars and you're watching the

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Woodline and all that to order to pick

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that out would be near impossible if it

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wasn't moving if it was laid down or

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sitting down or just back backlit you

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know with a lot of brush and Blended in

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it would be hard to see it without it

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moving so it almost feels as if

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something is there

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simply to monitor us or just to watch us

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and I don't know if that's alien I don't

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know if it's Faye what it is it just it

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doesn't fit anything because like we've

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said it there's really no crazy

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interactions there's not all the stories

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where you hear where it's walking around

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tents as you get with Bigfoot or it's

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leaving handprints or it's taking things

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or banging on houses or all that it's

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just on the periphery of interactions

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with people just it just feels like they

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are voyeurs they're just there to watch

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and when you bring up the idea of like

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Time Travelers or something along those

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lines it almost fits that too that's

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what I said is it's my favorite because

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you can't we can't grasp it it truly is

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grabbing smoke we we love to categorize

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things it helps us easy to understand it

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that's the reason we put certain things

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in boxes of Cryptids or Fae or humanoid

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or however we want to break them down

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for our own personal benefit

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this is humanoid shaped that's pretty

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much all we got like that's as far as it

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goes I've never seen a report where

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someone said it was once there and then

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I saw it drop its cloak and there it was

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it was it was an alien or it was a

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Bigfoot or it was whatever it's they

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seem to remain cloaked and of course

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they're easy I mean you you think about

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easy to lose if you went after it if you

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decided I got to go find out it runs

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around the corner 20 30 yards ahead of

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you steps off in the brush and stops

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well you're never going to see it again

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it's gone so it

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I I think most of the settings that I

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have gotten from folks have been deer

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hunters that are up in tree stands and

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just have to incidentally see movement

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in in another tree and then there they

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start concentrating on and they see it

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yeah and uh that you know it never

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manifests into anything other than you

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know that form

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so I don't know like you said maybe they

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are just Watchers you know

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and this is another thing about the

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whole aspect of Cryptids and such it

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seems to me and this is something that

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I've become more aware of since we've

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been working with the um the Chicago

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sightings is that I believe that these

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these beings

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allow themselves to be seen by certain

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people

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now do they do they have some type of

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ability to do that it seems that way

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because you know we've had sightings

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where there have been hundreds of people

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around and only a few people or one

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person even sees them

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uh I I don't know it it is strange

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I've often wondered when it comes to

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Glimmer Man and and we'll get on but

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we'll get into the Chicago sightings too

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but I've always wondered if like with

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the Glimmer Man are certain people more

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sensitive

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to see this thing like because you hear

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the stories a lot with mediums and

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people that are sensitive that they have

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paranormal experiences their whole life

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like somehow they're more sensitive

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that's why they grow up they see ghosts

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they see things other people don't see

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so perhaps it's the same I'm not saying

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that the gloomer man is picking them out

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it's just a coincidence when someone who

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is a little bit more sensitive they may

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not know that they are even they're the

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ones that's seeing this because you're

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right there are countless stories of

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people seeing things like we're in the

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Chicago area the Batman the flying

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winged humanoid and you'll it'll be lots

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of people around that like only one

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person saw it and they'll even like have

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their friend or whatever do you see that

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and the person's like I didn't see

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anything he's like he was standing right

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there yeah and the Chicago thing is wild

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because

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you know growing up as a kid when you

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heard about the original Mothman that

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was something that really blew my hair

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back back when I had hair it was that

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was a long time ago it was very

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intriguing to me right the The Moth Man

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and you read about it and the the the

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harbinger of death and bad things to

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come and now fast forward I never knew

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as a teenager that I would be hosting a

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paranormal show Friends with other

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paranormal shows and there's literally a

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mothman-like wave happening in in my

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time in real time yeah there's a lot of

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people up there seeing this has been

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going on for what like three or four

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years now

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11 years 11. see you know we started you

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know the in 2011 team excuse me 2011 was

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the first year where we really started

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getting a bunch of sightings together

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was three sightings in a three-month

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period and uh then it kind of waned off

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until of course 2017 then it just went

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absolutely nuts I mean that two that two

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year 2017 was crazy I was literally

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getting telephone calls 24 7 from people

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in Chicago not people who were having

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sightings but people who were worried

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about why are these sightings occurring

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and I'd had

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sit down on the phone and try to dispel

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people's fears I mean I'd say in July

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and August 2017 I was just all the time

436
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answering the phone middle of night all

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the time because people were literally

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frightened you know they knew about the

439
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Mothman and they knew the The Harbinger

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Theory and all that with the bridge and

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they thought well maybe some type of

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disaster is going to befall Chicago and

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and people were really scared

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yeah I've heard people say you know

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before 2020 that that was the precursor

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to covid outbreak that's why the Mothman

447
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was being seen there I've heard of the

448
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the lot of the violence on the south

449
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side of Chicago you know there's a lot

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of shootings there on a daily basis I

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mean they call it Chiraq for a reason

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like that's why it's there it's wherever

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there's despair wherever there's

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problems this mothman-like entity

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reveals itself I mean it could be

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happening in other places of the world

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that we're just not reported on right so

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maybe maybe that's what it is I don't

459
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know but it's all walks of life have

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reported this thing from old ladies that

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are shopping to you know uh directors at

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the airport to police officers to

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recently I saw on your website firemen

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my brother's a fireman several firemen

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have reported seeing this thing more

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than once right it's crazy yeah yeah you

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know we had the first firemen come

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forward to Manuel and um

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when when he started talking to this guy

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he was telling yeah I mean this isn't

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the first time we've got farming all

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over the airport they've got five

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stations

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uh of Chicago City Fire Department at

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O'Hare

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and uh apparently they all talk about it

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among each other so of course everybody

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knows about the O'Hara Batman that's

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what they call him

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so um and of course even the people who

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work the terminal and people that are

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security and air traffic and pilots and

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they all knowed about it so uh yeah it's

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um

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you know like I told you guys earlier in

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in October 2019 when deciding you know

487
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we got the first sighting at O'Hare it

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was attacked when those taxi drivers

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that was picking people up and they used

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to Stage outside the airport property

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until they'd get a call and of course

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they'd go to the terminal pick people up

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and that's where the first sighting

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happened right there beside this guy's

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going to want a cab it was like an Uber

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and uh he's the he's the first one and

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boy since then I'd say 80 85 percent of

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the sightings that we get not now and

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since then have been from O'Hare

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yeah it's bizarre you know

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there are other other regions of the

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world where like I it comes to mind is

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like Mexico and Mexico City in

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particular there's a lot there they call

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them witches right these flying

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humanoids they call them witches but the

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descriptions are fairly similar

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uh a winged human uh they mentioned the

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glowing eyes they mentioned the ominous

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feeling and just seeing it uh there are

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some videos you can look at on YouTube

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of various flying humanoids or witches

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but you know it makes you wonder like

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for the same reasons that is happening

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in the south side of Chicago is this

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Mothman other people call it the owl man

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which is whatever the name is it drawn

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to yeah there you go there's a picture

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is it drawn to Mexico City because a lot

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of the violence there you know with the

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cartels and things like maybe it's drawn

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and it's like like much like the Glimmer

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Man like it's it's a voyeur like it's

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watching is it a demon is it an

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ultra-terrestrial uh is it an

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extraterrestrial is it something that's

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just intrigued by mankind like what are

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these people doing

529
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you know it's it's just generally

530
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interested it's not there to cause harm

531
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we're just terrified because of stories

532
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like of the Mothman you know I don't

533
00:22:14,450 --> 00:22:12,900
know but it's but yeah there's another

534
00:22:16,549 --> 00:22:14,460
great image there's all kinds of images

535
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I've seen and some of them are different

536
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some of them that one looks like it has

537
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wings I've seen somewhere it looks like

538
00:22:23,330 --> 00:22:21,419
it's a guy with a jet pack you know

539
00:22:24,230 --> 00:22:23,340
you've seen the guys with those but a

540
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lot of the sightings in and around

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O'hare

542
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in particular they don't have they don't

543
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mention any sounds of like a jet pack or

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nothing like that most of the time they

545
00:22:33,830 --> 00:22:32,159
just if there isn't it just sound

546
00:22:34,789 --> 00:22:33,840
described it's the sound of flapping

547
00:22:39,289 --> 00:22:34,799
wings

548
00:22:41,870 --> 00:22:39,299
most

549
00:22:44,090 --> 00:22:41,880
ly 90 and 95 percent of the sightings

550
00:22:46,789 --> 00:22:44,100
that we have in Chicago the the wings

551
00:22:49,370 --> 00:22:46,799
are actually seen and most of those are

552
00:22:56,450 --> 00:22:49,380
bat-like wings now I got a report today

553
00:22:58,909 --> 00:22:56,460
from from August to 22 2022 in um in

554
00:23:00,890 --> 00:22:58,919
Waukegan was just north of Chicago and

555
00:23:04,090 --> 00:23:00,900
I'm going to post that tomorrow but uh

556
00:23:08,210 --> 00:23:04,100
this was a sighting that four people had

557
00:23:10,850 --> 00:23:08,220
uh that it did have wings law

558
00:23:12,409 --> 00:23:10,860
and this thing was seen flying and it

559
00:23:15,649 --> 00:23:12,419
was close enough that they could see

560
00:23:17,870 --> 00:23:15,659
detail on the body and all but uh

561
00:23:19,070 --> 00:23:17,880
you know of course this was something a

562
00:23:21,529 --> 00:23:19,080
little bit different than what people

563
00:23:23,750 --> 00:23:21,539
have been seeing so is it all connected

564
00:23:26,149 --> 00:23:23,760
oh I believe so because I I believe

565
00:23:28,010 --> 00:23:26,159
there have been so many different

566
00:23:29,510 --> 00:23:28,020
subtle you know subtle differences

567
00:23:31,549 --> 00:23:29,520
between all these sightings is

568
00:23:33,770 --> 00:23:31,559
something's definitely going on but I

569
00:23:35,390 --> 00:23:33,780
think I I think the origin is the same

570
00:23:38,510 --> 00:23:35,400
wherever they're coming from I think

571
00:23:39,590 --> 00:23:38,520
it's the same yeah so I agree and and a

572
00:23:41,149 --> 00:23:39,600
lot of the sightings oddly enough

573
00:23:43,250 --> 00:23:41,159
whether they see the wings the wings

574
00:23:44,990 --> 00:23:43,260
aren't ever flapping like they're

575
00:23:47,510 --> 00:23:45,000
stationary it's like

576
00:23:49,669 --> 00:23:47,520
it's not moving it's it's what is it

577
00:23:52,430 --> 00:23:49,679
gliding I don't know but like oddly

578
00:23:54,830 --> 00:23:52,440
enough they don't see it flapping well

579
00:23:57,529 --> 00:23:54,840
you know when I had my encounter back in

580
00:24:02,270 --> 00:23:57,539
two in in 1988 with two other

581
00:24:04,909 --> 00:24:02,280
individuals and we saw a red-eyed Bean

582
00:24:07,270 --> 00:24:04,919
that literally jettisoned itself without

583
00:24:09,950 --> 00:24:07,280
the use of its wings though it had wings

584
00:24:12,590 --> 00:24:09,960
it didn't unfurl the wings but it was

585
00:24:15,409 --> 00:24:12,600
able to Genesis itself quickly into the

586
00:24:17,090 --> 00:24:15,419
air without flapping a wing or anything

587
00:24:19,669 --> 00:24:17,100
like that it was just like this thing

588
00:24:21,010 --> 00:24:19,679
had the ability to move without the

589
00:24:23,630 --> 00:24:21,020
propulsion

590
00:24:25,370 --> 00:24:23,640
so um and we get a lot of that in

591
00:24:27,110 --> 00:24:25,380
Chicago you know and this is another

592
00:24:30,289 --> 00:24:27,120
thing

593
00:24:34,070 --> 00:24:30,299
I had I had that encounter way back in

594
00:24:38,570 --> 00:24:34,080
you know in 1988

595
00:24:41,029 --> 00:24:38,580
was I chosen or was I predisposed to

596
00:24:44,330 --> 00:24:41,039
getting these citing reports out of

597
00:24:45,169 --> 00:24:44,340
Chicago because of that because what I

598
00:24:47,570 --> 00:24:45,179
saw

599
00:24:50,810 --> 00:24:47,580
was very similar to what people are

600
00:24:54,669 --> 00:24:50,820
describing to me in Chicago

601
00:24:58,070 --> 00:24:54,679
so I don't know was it a precursor

602
00:25:00,710 --> 00:24:58,080
in some way the human Earth Marquee in

603
00:25:02,870 --> 00:25:00,720
some form or fashion yeah

604
00:25:09,230 --> 00:25:06,529
like what is the benefit what are they

605
00:25:10,730 --> 00:25:09,240
benefiting from for being there because

606
00:25:12,350 --> 00:25:10,740
it to me it's one of those things like

607
00:25:13,909 --> 00:25:12,360
they have to be feeding off of something

608
00:25:15,830 --> 00:25:13,919
I always bring this up

609
00:25:17,690 --> 00:25:15,840
is it's because without the interaction

610
00:25:20,029 --> 00:25:17,700
it's almost like they feed off of your

611
00:25:22,250 --> 00:25:20,039
fear or your anxiety whatever your

612
00:25:24,350 --> 00:25:22,260
energy that you're putting off is

613
00:25:26,450 --> 00:25:24,360
something that they enjoy they enjoy

614
00:25:29,029 --> 00:25:26,460
giving you those glimpses of it

615
00:25:31,370 --> 00:25:29,039
whether it's cortisol spikes whatever it

616
00:25:32,870 --> 00:25:31,380
is they seem to be enjoying and so it

617
00:25:35,870 --> 00:25:32,880
always makes me wonder when we see these

618
00:25:38,090 --> 00:25:35,880
flaps is what's going on there it's

619
00:25:40,430 --> 00:25:38,100
affecting everyone there and enough so

620
00:25:42,169 --> 00:25:40,440
that more of them show up to feed it's

621
00:25:43,490 --> 00:25:42,179
almost like feeding seagulls right like

622
00:25:45,590 --> 00:25:43,500
you get one or two but the minute you

623
00:25:47,630 --> 00:25:45,600
start feeding they all show up that's

624
00:25:49,970 --> 00:25:47,640
almost what this feels like

625
00:25:51,289 --> 00:25:49,980
is that flap has started and it may be

626
00:25:52,549 --> 00:25:51,299
like you're talking about all the stuff

627
00:25:54,950 --> 00:25:52,559
that's been going on in and around

628
00:25:56,570 --> 00:25:54,960
Chicago but it's strange that it's

629
00:25:59,149 --> 00:25:56,580
flapped over so much we keep his word

630
00:26:02,090 --> 00:25:59,159
flat with wings it's hilarious but it's

631
00:26:04,250 --> 00:26:02,100
it's at the airport it's just so crazy

632
00:26:06,950 --> 00:26:04,260
that it's all in and around this one

633
00:26:08,870 --> 00:26:06,960
area is so concentrated and it seems to

634
00:26:11,029 --> 00:26:08,880
be more concentrated like as it's

635
00:26:13,250 --> 00:26:11,039
trickled down it's like they've moved to

636
00:26:16,010 --> 00:26:13,260
this area I want to know what what went

637
00:26:18,289 --> 00:26:16,020
on there where they built the airport or

638
00:26:21,049 --> 00:26:18,299
what's still going on there it could

639
00:26:22,789 --> 00:26:21,059
possibly be drawing this in that's

640
00:26:24,350 --> 00:26:22,799
something we've tried to you know this

641
00:26:27,169 --> 00:26:24,360
is something we've tried to figure out

642
00:26:29,210 --> 00:26:27,179
the very beginning uh of course even

643
00:26:31,430 --> 00:26:29,220
before before I wrote the first book and

644
00:26:33,110 --> 00:26:31,440
we hadn't been getting sightings at the

645
00:26:35,990 --> 00:26:33,120
airport but of course since like I said

646
00:26:37,490 --> 00:26:36,000
before October 2019 we started getting

647
00:26:40,490 --> 00:26:37,500
the sightings and there was definitely a

648
00:26:43,250 --> 00:26:40,500
draw to the airport uh there is one area

649
00:26:44,830 --> 00:26:43,260
of the airport where there is actually a

650
00:26:48,529 --> 00:26:44,840
cemetery

651
00:26:52,190 --> 00:26:48,539
and uh there are several

652
00:26:54,529 --> 00:26:52,200
uh carriers that you know cargo carriers

653
00:26:57,950 --> 00:26:54,539
that are are there located in that area

654
00:26:59,149 --> 00:26:57,960
that's the uh south west side of the

655
00:27:02,029 --> 00:26:59,159
airport

656
00:27:03,890 --> 00:27:02,039
and I I'd say

657
00:27:07,130 --> 00:27:03,900
at least 50 percent of the sightings

658
00:27:10,789 --> 00:27:07,140
have been concentrated around that area

659
00:27:13,430 --> 00:27:10,799
and uh I I believe that the I believe

660
00:27:15,110 --> 00:27:13,440
that that cemetery is a draw is there a

661
00:27:17,409 --> 00:27:15,120
portal there is there something there I

662
00:27:20,750 --> 00:27:17,419
I think there's something about it

663
00:27:22,490 --> 00:27:20,760
and uh there's definitely connection

664
00:27:24,470 --> 00:27:22,500
there's definitely connection there has

665
00:27:26,149 --> 00:27:24,480
to be something that's that's pulling

666
00:27:27,950 --> 00:27:26,159
this energy or pulling whatever this is

667
00:27:29,750 --> 00:27:27,960
to this spot

668
00:27:31,909 --> 00:27:29,760
they're not just showing up randomly

669
00:27:33,769 --> 00:27:31,919
otherwise they would be random spots all

670
00:27:34,610 --> 00:27:33,779
over the world that would be getting

671
00:27:36,490 --> 00:27:34,620
this

672
00:27:39,409 --> 00:27:36,500
yeah you say 50

673
00:27:40,690 --> 00:27:39,419
that is a large sum given the number of

674
00:27:43,970 --> 00:27:40,700
sightings that you've collected since

675
00:27:46,370 --> 00:27:43,980
2011. that is a giant pile of them being

676
00:27:48,769 --> 00:27:46,380
concentrated in a very close area so any

677
00:27:50,390 --> 00:27:48,779
of y'all listening if you want to go try

678
00:27:52,370 --> 00:27:50,400
to see something crazy go hang out

679
00:27:54,409 --> 00:27:52,380
around that area there's your hot spot

680
00:27:56,330 --> 00:27:54,419
you might bump into one now you're gonna

681
00:27:58,490 --> 00:27:56,340
you're gonna do it on your own you're

682
00:28:00,529 --> 00:27:58,500
gonna pick it on all in on your own risk

683
00:28:02,930 --> 00:28:00,539
if you go there yeah you see something

684
00:28:03,890 --> 00:28:02,940
crazy coming down there you don't want

685
00:28:05,269 --> 00:28:03,900
that happening you don't want that

686
00:28:07,070 --> 00:28:05,279
flying and landing in the bed of the

687
00:28:08,269 --> 00:28:07,080
truck like especially that you don't

688
00:28:10,010 --> 00:28:08,279
want that Landing in the bed of the

689
00:28:12,289 --> 00:28:10,020
truck yeah well I was I was not aware

690
00:28:14,090 --> 00:28:12,299
about the the cemetery the graveyard

691
00:28:16,310 --> 00:28:14,100
being on the uh grounds of the airport

692
00:28:18,230 --> 00:28:16,320
that that's really interesting that

693
00:28:19,970 --> 00:28:18,240
changes well my mind

694
00:28:22,190 --> 00:28:19,980
you know um

695
00:28:24,710 --> 00:28:22,200
O'Hare

696
00:28:27,769 --> 00:28:24,720
O'Hara used for the most part that whole

697
00:28:29,750 --> 00:28:27,779
area was Old Orchards that's why when

698
00:28:32,450 --> 00:28:29,760
you see the the designation the airport

699
00:28:34,789 --> 00:28:32,460
it's Ord

700
00:28:36,049 --> 00:28:34,799
that's abbreviated for Orchards I got

701
00:28:39,289 --> 00:28:36,059
you

702
00:28:41,090 --> 00:28:39,299
um so uh but there were two cemeteries

703
00:28:43,130 --> 00:28:41,100
at that location

704
00:28:44,930 --> 00:28:43,140
now they did move the one they you know

705
00:28:47,269 --> 00:28:44,940
they dug everything up and moved to put

706
00:28:48,710 --> 00:28:47,279
this particular Cemetery the Rest Haven

707
00:28:52,250 --> 00:28:48,720
Cemetery

708
00:28:54,769 --> 00:28:52,260
it's not big at all I mean you know uh

709
00:28:57,230 --> 00:28:54,779
it might be an acre or so maybe a little

710
00:28:58,630 --> 00:28:57,240
more than an acre but everything was

711
00:29:03,230 --> 00:28:58,640
kept there

712
00:29:06,769 --> 00:29:03,240
and we have had a variety of phenomena

713
00:29:10,010 --> 00:29:06,779
happen at that at that location I mean

714
00:29:12,169 --> 00:29:10,020
we've had UFO activity we've had yeah uh

715
00:29:14,570 --> 00:29:12,179
we had a uh

716
00:29:17,570 --> 00:29:14,580
a individual who worked at one of the

717
00:29:20,330 --> 00:29:17,580
docks who was out there and sold a

718
00:29:21,409 --> 00:29:20,340
egg-shaped UFO hovering above the

719
00:29:25,310 --> 00:29:21,419
cemetery

720
00:29:27,889 --> 00:29:25,320
and and some type of humanoid ascended

721
00:29:31,250 --> 00:29:27,899
up into it from the cemetery

722
00:29:33,409 --> 00:29:31,260
uh a lot of weird stuff uh one of our

723
00:29:35,810 --> 00:29:33,419
one of our investigators

724
00:29:38,750 --> 00:29:35,820
actually got there went there and he has

725
00:29:40,789 --> 00:29:38,760
a he's got the ability to get into the

726
00:29:42,769 --> 00:29:40,799
airport because his work so he's got you

727
00:29:45,110 --> 00:29:42,779
know he's got permission to be there and

728
00:29:47,870 --> 00:29:45,120
he went into the cemetery at night

729
00:29:52,310 --> 00:29:47,880
and he had a physical contact with one

730
00:29:55,810 --> 00:29:52,320
of these beings so uh I I we do believe

731
00:29:58,610 --> 00:29:55,820
that there is a very important

732
00:30:02,210 --> 00:29:58,620
part of this whole story associated with

733
00:30:05,450 --> 00:30:02,220
that Cemetery in that whole area now

734
00:30:07,850 --> 00:30:05,460
is that the original area where they're

735
00:30:10,130 --> 00:30:07,860
coming in at that could be but I of

736
00:30:14,269 --> 00:30:10,140
course we're getting sightings

737
00:30:16,669 --> 00:30:14,279
like a 200 250 mile radius of Chicago

738
00:30:19,549 --> 00:30:16,679
uh so there's got to be something else

739
00:30:21,850 --> 00:30:19,559
going on here but the sightings in of

740
00:30:25,010 --> 00:30:21,860
course have been very similar

741
00:30:26,750 --> 00:30:25,020
and uh it just keeps on going like I

742
00:30:29,210 --> 00:30:26,760
told you guys it's the crypto that keeps

743
00:30:31,490 --> 00:30:29,220
on giving man because you know when you

744
00:30:33,769 --> 00:30:31,500
think when you think it's it's it's over

745
00:30:35,870 --> 00:30:33,779
then it starts springing up again but it

746
00:30:39,169 --> 00:30:35,880
always seems to come in waves

747
00:30:41,169 --> 00:30:39,179
and uh you know we had had not had a

748
00:30:44,149 --> 00:30:41,179
sighting for almost three or four months

749
00:30:46,430 --> 00:30:44,159
lately and all of a sudden we started

750
00:30:49,310 --> 00:30:46,440
having people coming forward

751
00:30:52,250 --> 00:30:49,320
so it it it's I it's hard to it's hard

752
00:30:54,289 --> 00:30:52,260
to understand why it is what it is

753
00:30:56,090 --> 00:30:54,299
but uh yeah this whole thing with the

754
00:30:57,830 --> 00:30:56,100
fireman you get one guy talking about

755
00:31:00,289 --> 00:30:57,840
then all you know all the other ones

756
00:31:02,870 --> 00:31:00,299
want to talk about it too so yeah that's

757
00:31:04,070 --> 00:31:02,880
people feel okay coming forward and like

758
00:31:05,630 --> 00:31:04,080
yeah talked about how many of the

759
00:31:08,210 --> 00:31:05,640
sightings are there that people haven't

760
00:31:09,830 --> 00:31:08,220
come forward well that's just it you

761
00:31:12,950 --> 00:31:09,840
know of course we know it's happening

762
00:31:14,570 --> 00:31:12,960
sure and uh and the powers to be at the

763
00:31:18,049 --> 00:31:14,580
airport are trying to keep this thing as

764
00:31:20,450 --> 00:31:18,059
quiet as possible you know all these

765
00:31:22,850 --> 00:31:20,460
we've had and I've talked to people at

766
00:31:24,710 --> 00:31:22,860
the airport there are people getting

767
00:31:26,630 --> 00:31:24,720
picked up and arrested and thrown off

768
00:31:28,250 --> 00:31:26,640
the airport all the time they're coming

769
00:31:30,529 --> 00:31:28,260
on there trying to sneak them on there

770
00:31:33,889 --> 00:31:30,539
that are not you know not supposed to be

771
00:31:37,490 --> 00:31:33,899
there and uh that's a big problem

772
00:31:40,010 --> 00:31:37,500
but uh yeah anytime uh there's a but in

773
00:31:40,970 --> 00:31:40,020
the past year or so anytime there's a

774
00:31:43,789 --> 00:31:40,980
report

775
00:31:45,529 --> 00:31:43,799
uh from a witness who's like a

776
00:31:47,750 --> 00:31:45,539
supervisor for one of the carriers or

777
00:31:50,029 --> 00:31:47,760
something especially in the cargo areas

778
00:31:53,870 --> 00:31:50,039
when they call in security they are

779
00:31:57,889 --> 00:31:53,880
there in an instant and it's it's either

780
00:31:59,210 --> 00:31:57,899
the Chicago O'Hara security that the

781
00:32:02,990 --> 00:31:59,220
private security

782
00:32:05,210 --> 00:32:03,000
or it's TSA yeah and they don't play

783
00:32:06,769 --> 00:32:05,220
well they make them play and play around

784
00:32:08,630 --> 00:32:06,779
they're not doing this just for fun now

785
00:32:10,070 --> 00:32:08,640
I mean any how many people are actually

786
00:32:11,330 --> 00:32:10,080
looking up I mean every all these young

787
00:32:12,889 --> 00:32:11,340
people all they're doing is looking at

788
00:32:14,870 --> 00:32:12,899
their phones you're looking down all the

789
00:32:17,330 --> 00:32:14,880
time if you just lift your head

790
00:32:18,710 --> 00:32:17,340
how many more sightings would there be I

791
00:32:20,990 --> 00:32:18,720
want to know what the pilots have seen

792
00:32:22,430 --> 00:32:21,000
well when it comes to UFOs and some of

793
00:32:24,409 --> 00:32:22,440
the sightings you can go on YouTube and

794
00:32:26,750 --> 00:32:24,419
you can find the the radio conversations

795
00:32:29,210 --> 00:32:26,760
between the the flight Tower

796
00:32:30,590 --> 00:32:29,220
and and the pilots like did you see that

797
00:32:31,669 --> 00:32:30,600
and they'll have there's actual

798
00:32:33,409 --> 00:32:31,679
recordings I've heard them in like

799
00:32:34,970 --> 00:32:33,419
luggage handlers and stuff they'll come

800
00:32:38,389 --> 00:32:34,980
on and be like oh yeah we saw it on

801
00:32:40,909 --> 00:32:38,399
Runway 17. so lots of people have been

802
00:32:43,430 --> 00:32:40,919
seeing not just the UFOs but the

803
00:32:46,010 --> 00:32:43,440
humanoids as well so yeah I'm not

804
00:32:48,590 --> 00:32:46,020
documented not just on lawn site but in

805
00:32:50,930 --> 00:32:48,600
our show it's nuts I mean I I wish I had

806
00:32:52,130 --> 00:32:50,940
a better answer for everybody but you

807
00:32:55,070 --> 00:32:52,140
know you know

808
00:32:57,049 --> 00:32:55,080
I and the first thing I I hear well why

809
00:33:00,169 --> 00:32:57,059
isn't anybody getting a photograph of it

810
00:33:02,570 --> 00:33:00,179
well yeah that's a good point but

811
00:33:04,130 --> 00:33:02,580
if you're out there not expecting this

812
00:33:04,970 --> 00:33:04,140
thing and the phone's in your in your

813
00:33:07,190 --> 00:33:04,980
pocket

814
00:33:09,049 --> 00:33:07,200
by the time you grab this thing and try

815
00:33:11,510 --> 00:33:09,059
to get a photograph if you're even

816
00:33:13,789 --> 00:33:11,520
thinking about doing that at all from

817
00:33:15,529 --> 00:33:13,799
the shock right that's not the easiest

818
00:33:16,789 --> 00:33:15,539
thing in the world to do take your phone

819
00:33:19,009 --> 00:33:16,799
and take a picture of a commercial

820
00:33:20,570 --> 00:33:19,019
airliner in the in the sky at night tell

821
00:33:21,769 --> 00:33:20,580
me how that works yeah you know what I

822
00:33:23,630 --> 00:33:21,779
mean it's like they're great for taking

823
00:33:26,210 --> 00:33:23,640
pictures from me to you or across the

824
00:33:27,950 --> 00:33:26,220
table or over your food all of that but

825
00:33:29,630 --> 00:33:27,960
they're not so great when you're trying

826
00:33:32,529 --> 00:33:29,640
to document something at Great distance

827
00:33:35,570 --> 00:33:32,539
in the air yeah yeah

828
00:33:36,889 --> 00:33:35,580
all right yeah I still love it it's

829
00:33:39,049 --> 00:33:36,899
still one of my all-time favorite

830
00:33:40,130 --> 00:33:39,059
Mysteries is whenever I'm thinking I'm

831
00:33:41,690 --> 00:33:40,140
always like well what I'm going to look

832
00:33:44,330 --> 00:33:41,700
at and I'll go in and see what Lawns

833
00:33:47,930 --> 00:33:44,340
found I'm like let's see what Madness is

834
00:33:50,509 --> 00:33:47,940
going on this week up around Chicago you

835
00:33:52,730 --> 00:33:50,519
can guarantee you'll find something it's

836
00:33:55,190 --> 00:33:52,740
it's the one spot that it truly like

837
00:33:57,830 --> 00:33:55,200
imagine if they were Bigfoot sightings

838
00:34:01,070 --> 00:33:57,840
like this if they was one area that you

839
00:34:03,110 --> 00:34:01,080
could go and you know how many is going

840
00:34:05,750 --> 00:34:03,120
to go on there imagine the odds of it

841
00:34:06,889 --> 00:34:05,760
that's what's so crazy is I don't feel

842
00:34:08,389 --> 00:34:06,899
like they have to be feeding off

843
00:34:10,129 --> 00:34:08,399
something something has to be drawn them

844
00:34:12,230 --> 00:34:10,139
there and it sounds like it's in the

845
00:34:14,149 --> 00:34:12,240
cemetery whether it's the the burial of

846
00:34:16,550 --> 00:34:14,159
an old Shaman or an occultist or

847
00:34:19,070 --> 00:34:16,560
whatever is out there that's caused this

848
00:34:20,629 --> 00:34:19,080
who knows but something is definitely

849
00:34:22,190 --> 00:34:20,639
popping off well that's what makes it

850
00:34:23,930 --> 00:34:22,200
around there it makes it so exciting is

851
00:34:26,450 --> 00:34:23,940
like I said I've read a ton about

852
00:34:28,310 --> 00:34:26,460
different things over the last 20 30

853
00:34:30,109 --> 00:34:28,320
years researching paranormal stuff but

854
00:34:32,570 --> 00:34:30,119
I've never actually lived through an

855
00:34:34,909 --> 00:34:32,580
actual wave so it's kind of cool to be

856
00:34:36,109 --> 00:34:34,919
in the middle of it well my niece was a

857
00:34:37,730 --> 00:34:36,119
flight attendant she lived in

858
00:34:39,950 --> 00:34:37,740
Wrigleyville for a few years up there

859
00:34:41,869 --> 00:34:39,960
and so I was always asking her about it

860
00:34:43,369 --> 00:34:41,879
now she never had anything like that but

861
00:34:45,470 --> 00:34:43,379
she did tell me that she had heard

862
00:34:48,829 --> 00:34:45,480
people talk about it in and around the

863
00:34:51,829 --> 00:34:48,839
airport and all that sure yeah they talk

864
00:34:54,050 --> 00:34:51,839
about it all the time I mean I I told

865
00:34:55,790 --> 00:34:54,060
you earlier I've got a um I've got a

866
00:34:56,690 --> 00:34:55,800
supervisor who works with one of the

867
00:34:59,750 --> 00:34:56,700
carriers

868
00:35:01,609 --> 00:34:59,760
and they they tell me what they hear at

869
00:35:03,490 --> 00:35:01,619
the terminal what their employees are

870
00:35:05,510 --> 00:35:03,500
telling them what other

871
00:35:07,010 --> 00:35:05,520
carriers are telling them but

872
00:35:08,210 --> 00:35:07,020
supervisors some other they all know

873
00:35:09,829 --> 00:35:08,220
about it

874
00:35:11,810 --> 00:35:09,839
so everyone listening right now imagine

875
00:35:14,690 --> 00:35:11,820
you were at your job your place of

876
00:35:17,210 --> 00:35:14,700
employment and this was openly discussed

877
00:35:19,310 --> 00:35:17,220
like it's been being done now like

878
00:35:21,170 --> 00:35:19,320
actually taken serious enough to where

879
00:35:23,089 --> 00:35:21,180
supervisors are like hey

880
00:35:24,349 --> 00:35:23,099
something went down last night this is

881
00:35:26,030 --> 00:35:24,359
what you're going to hear this is what

882
00:35:27,829 --> 00:35:26,040
they saw just want to bring it out so

883
00:35:29,750 --> 00:35:27,839
everybody's attention all right have a

884
00:35:32,089 --> 00:35:29,760
good day today boom and that's it like

885
00:35:33,589 --> 00:35:32,099
if that was imagine going into any job

886
00:35:35,210 --> 00:35:33,599
any job and that's what they were

887
00:35:37,550 --> 00:35:35,220
talking about oh by the way last night

888
00:35:40,490 --> 00:35:37,560
not shift this is what they saw get

889
00:35:43,370 --> 00:35:40,500
ready I mean and like you said security

890
00:35:45,230 --> 00:35:43,380
shows up undoubtedly this is a very

891
00:35:48,710 --> 00:35:45,240
serious topic for all of those involved

892
00:35:50,870 --> 00:35:48,720
not just us looking in on it

893
00:35:52,670 --> 00:35:50,880
I mean that a lot of these people who

894
00:35:54,410 --> 00:35:52,680
have been Witnesses have had their jobs

895
00:35:57,829 --> 00:35:54,420
threatened

896
00:36:00,349 --> 00:35:57,839
we had an incident where

897
00:36:03,290 --> 00:36:00,359
one of the witnesses actually got

898
00:36:06,349 --> 00:36:03,300
footage on their cell phone and they

899
00:36:08,870 --> 00:36:06,359
they told them if you do not

900
00:36:10,069 --> 00:36:08,880
hand it over or do not clear it you're

901
00:36:12,710 --> 00:36:10,079
going to be gone

902
00:36:13,430 --> 00:36:12,720
I mean in no uncertain terms they tell

903
00:36:15,890 --> 00:36:13,440
them

904
00:36:18,770 --> 00:36:15,900
I've had several people who worked there

905
00:36:21,290 --> 00:36:18,780
who you know have told me the same story

906
00:36:22,849 --> 00:36:21,300
and Manuel hears it as well I mean he

907
00:36:25,370 --> 00:36:22,859
lives there so he's there all the time

908
00:36:28,910 --> 00:36:25,380
and he works for a trucking company so

909
00:36:31,550 --> 00:36:28,920
he's hearing the stories so um

910
00:36:33,170 --> 00:36:31,560
yeah it's crazy now you guys said you

911
00:36:35,750 --> 00:36:33,180
guys have brought up the

912
00:36:39,230 --> 00:36:35,760
the crawler humanoids now I wrote a book

913
00:36:41,329 --> 00:36:39,240
about this and I honestly I still don't

914
00:36:43,069 --> 00:36:41,339
know what the hell this thing is or what

915
00:36:44,750 --> 00:36:43,079
these things are

916
00:36:48,589 --> 00:36:44,760
um you know you brought up a good point

917
00:36:50,690 --> 00:36:48,599
yeah a lot of it seem to start off with

918
00:36:54,530 --> 00:36:50,700
the Slenderman phenomena which was just

919
00:36:56,569 --> 00:36:54,540
a meme but uh it's before that there

920
00:36:59,630 --> 00:36:56,579
have been these these memes of these

921
00:37:02,030 --> 00:36:59,640
humanoid beings from a long time ago

922
00:37:04,310 --> 00:37:02,040
and um

923
00:37:06,410 --> 00:37:04,320
or are they thought form sure they could

924
00:37:08,089 --> 00:37:06,420
be false forms that was that I I wrote a

925
00:37:10,329 --> 00:37:08,099
chapter about thought forms and the

926
00:37:13,250 --> 00:37:10,339
possibility but

927
00:37:15,890 --> 00:37:13,260
why all of a sudden are people talking

928
00:37:18,349 --> 00:37:15,900
about this I mean

929
00:37:21,290 --> 00:37:18,359
the encounters that they just continue

930
00:37:22,730 --> 00:37:21,300
on and continue on uh you know I don't

931
00:37:25,790 --> 00:37:22,740
know what people are seeing or what

932
00:37:27,829 --> 00:37:25,800
people are experiencing but there's no

933
00:37:29,030 --> 00:37:27,839
real Rhyme or Reason for it there's no

934
00:37:30,490 --> 00:37:29,040
actual

935
00:37:33,829 --> 00:37:30,500
um

936
00:37:35,569 --> 00:37:33,839
reason to why they're there it just

937
00:37:36,950 --> 00:37:35,579
seems that they show up for whatever

938
00:37:39,950 --> 00:37:36,960
reason

939
00:37:41,630 --> 00:37:39,960
yeah uh and I think a lot of people are

940
00:37:44,750 --> 00:37:41,640
coming forward now because of the

941
00:37:46,609 --> 00:37:44,760
popularity of podcasts because of the

942
00:37:48,950 --> 00:37:46,619
popularity of shows like this on YouTube

943
00:37:50,810 --> 00:37:48,960
because of your books and things like

944
00:37:52,490 --> 00:37:50,820
that people and just the younger

945
00:37:54,530 --> 00:37:52,500
generation that people don't feel the

946
00:37:56,630 --> 00:37:54,540
ridicule that say our great grandfathers

947
00:37:58,130 --> 00:37:56,640
would have felt felt you know my

948
00:37:59,690 --> 00:37:58,140
grandfather was a Stern man he wouldn't

949
00:38:01,069 --> 00:37:59,700
he would if he saw something like that

950
00:38:03,170 --> 00:38:01,079
he would never tell anybody I mean he

951
00:38:05,390 --> 00:38:03,180
just wouldn't but nowadays people feel

952
00:38:06,950 --> 00:38:05,400
more comfortable sharing so I think a

953
00:38:08,089 --> 00:38:06,960
lot of people are sharing their strange

954
00:38:10,430 --> 00:38:08,099
encounters

955
00:38:11,990 --> 00:38:10,440
and you're right I've read all

956
00:38:13,910 --> 00:38:12,000
everything about you know that this is a

957
00:38:15,470 --> 00:38:13,920
new creation that was on Creepypasta and

958
00:38:17,089 --> 00:38:15,480
stuff like that but there are sightings

959
00:38:19,250 --> 00:38:17,099
that go back hundreds of years where

960
00:38:21,230 --> 00:38:19,260
it's a description very similar now

961
00:38:23,329 --> 00:38:21,240
they're not calling it a rake they're

962
00:38:25,550 --> 00:38:23,339
not calling it a pale crawler they're

963
00:38:26,750 --> 00:38:25,560
calling it a golem-like creature because

964
00:38:28,910 --> 00:38:26,760
that's what that's what they associate

965
00:38:29,870 --> 00:38:28,920
because of tolkien's books and things

966
00:38:31,130 --> 00:38:29,880
like that you know that's the

967
00:38:33,950 --> 00:38:31,140
description they're giving and I'm sure

968
00:38:36,050 --> 00:38:33,960
before those books it was given a name

969
00:38:37,430 --> 00:38:36,060
of some other name by you know wherever

970
00:38:40,790 --> 00:38:37,440
it was seen whether it's in Germany

971
00:38:42,890 --> 00:38:40,800
Hungary South America North America the

972
00:38:44,270 --> 00:38:42,900
United Kingdom I believe that these

973
00:38:46,069 --> 00:38:44,280
things have been seen for a long time

974
00:38:47,030 --> 00:38:46,079
and that they just went under different

975
00:38:48,530 --> 00:38:47,040
names

976
00:38:51,230 --> 00:38:48,540
and

977
00:38:53,510 --> 00:38:51,240
they seem demonic to me now I don't know

978
00:38:55,010 --> 00:38:53,520
but I know that people I've read

979
00:38:56,569 --> 00:38:55,020
societies where people had an encounter

980
00:38:59,089 --> 00:38:56,579
they got kind of freaked out they jumped

981
00:39:00,650 --> 00:38:59,099
in their car they drove off

982
00:39:02,510 --> 00:39:00,660
they thought about it for a little bit

983
00:39:04,130 --> 00:39:02,520
then they decided the next morning or

984
00:39:05,810 --> 00:39:04,140
even an hour or two later when they calm

985
00:39:06,770 --> 00:39:05,820
down to go back to where they had the

986
00:39:08,930 --> 00:39:06,780
encounter and then they look and there's

987
00:39:11,210 --> 00:39:08,940
no Footprints there's no traces of

988
00:39:13,370 --> 00:39:11,220
anything like this happening I've seen

989
00:39:17,030 --> 00:39:13,380
several pictures off of trail cams

990
00:39:19,550 --> 00:39:17,040
of things that you know looks like what

991
00:39:21,050 --> 00:39:19,560
we're calling a pale crawler now but I

992
00:39:22,849 --> 00:39:21,060
think it's something demonic but I don't

993
00:39:24,890 --> 00:39:22,859
know and again it's the same question as

994
00:39:26,930 --> 00:39:24,900
we had with the with the the Mothman and

995
00:39:29,150 --> 00:39:26,940
the Glimmer Man are certain people

996
00:39:32,210 --> 00:39:29,160
sensitive to seeing these things

997
00:39:33,950 --> 00:39:32,220
or can anybody see them you know I think

998
00:39:37,790 --> 00:39:33,960
there's something to that I really do I

999
00:39:39,829 --> 00:39:37,800
think there's something to that and um

1000
00:39:42,710 --> 00:39:39,839
you know the fact that

1001
00:39:43,790 --> 00:39:42,720
I don't know you know it it kind of it

1002
00:39:46,670 --> 00:39:43,800
gets to the point where it almost all

1003
00:39:49,130 --> 00:39:46,680
runs together you know you gotta and I I

1004
00:39:51,170 --> 00:39:49,140
I I think the one thing that fascinates

1005
00:39:54,109 --> 00:39:51,180
me about

1006
00:39:56,270 --> 00:39:54,119
about this phenomena and other other

1007
00:39:58,690 --> 00:39:56,280
phenomena like the wing humanoids but

1008
00:40:01,010 --> 00:39:58,700
there always seems to be a connection

1009
00:40:02,870 --> 00:40:01,020
with films

1010
00:40:05,990 --> 00:40:02,880
for whatever reason just like with the

1011
00:40:08,270 --> 00:40:06,000
Glimmer Man you know the Predator uh

1012
00:40:12,890 --> 00:40:08,280
the the wing humanoids and jeepers

1013
00:40:15,470 --> 00:40:12,900
creepers and you know there always seems

1014
00:40:18,310 --> 00:40:15,480
you know and a lot of people who who

1015
00:40:22,069 --> 00:40:18,320
have these experiences do bring it up

1016
00:40:25,490 --> 00:40:22,079
you know of course the Slender Man was a

1017
00:40:27,770 --> 00:40:25,500
meme uh but why all of a sudden are

1018
00:40:28,910 --> 00:40:27,780
people seeing something very similar to

1019
00:40:30,710 --> 00:40:28,920
this

1020
00:40:32,270 --> 00:40:30,720
uh and the first thing you can think

1021
00:40:35,810 --> 00:40:32,280
about it's a tall bar a thought form

1022
00:40:36,950 --> 00:40:35,820
it's mind manifested just like a

1023
00:40:38,329 --> 00:40:36,960
poltergeist

1024
00:40:42,050 --> 00:40:38,339
um but

1025
00:40:43,609 --> 00:40:42,060
who knows yeah and I mean and like I

1026
00:40:44,930 --> 00:40:43,619
believe the two of those girls convinced

1027
00:40:46,849 --> 00:40:44,940
another friend of theirs to murder

1028
00:40:50,150 --> 00:40:46,859
somebody didn't they sure no matter

1029
00:40:52,730 --> 00:40:50,160
girls yeah I was up in up in Wisconsin

1030
00:40:55,370 --> 00:40:52,740
he's up in Wisconsin the two girls were

1031
00:40:58,010 --> 00:40:55,380
into this whole Creepypasta thing with

1032
00:41:00,710 --> 00:40:58,020
the Slender Man yeah and they convinced

1033
00:41:05,510 --> 00:41:00,720
themselves that it was real and that uh

1034
00:41:08,270 --> 00:41:05,520
they were going to uh kill this girl for

1035
00:41:10,670 --> 00:41:08,280
it you know for the Slender Man

1036
00:41:13,250 --> 00:41:10,680
and they just went totally nuts on it

1037
00:41:16,069 --> 00:41:13,260
and uh yeah they almost killed a girl

1038
00:41:19,069 --> 00:41:16,079
yeah so perhaps it manifested itself to

1039
00:41:21,770 --> 00:41:19,079
them and I sure actually carried out a

1040
00:41:23,450 --> 00:41:21,780
sacrifice to it you know if it's is this

1041
00:41:25,790 --> 00:41:23,460
demon that's feeding off of

1042
00:41:26,810 --> 00:41:25,800
your soul or energy or something you

1043
00:41:29,030 --> 00:41:26,820
know like that I mean it actually

1044
00:41:31,250 --> 00:41:29,040
succeeded in that circumstance

1045
00:41:32,990 --> 00:41:31,260
and like you talk about with thought

1046
00:41:35,870 --> 00:41:33,000
projection and stuff maybe the

1047
00:41:37,849 --> 00:41:35,880
collective thinking and the fear of this

1048
00:41:39,349 --> 00:41:37,859
is actually created it

1049
00:41:41,569 --> 00:41:39,359
you know it reminds me a lot of like

1050
00:41:43,430 --> 00:41:41,579
them black-eyed kids yeah same thing

1051
00:41:45,470 --> 00:41:43,440
it's the same deal it almost feels like

1052
00:41:48,109 --> 00:41:45,480
they are again it's they're feeding off

1053
00:41:50,870 --> 00:41:48,119
of it it's something that they need to

1054
00:41:52,970 --> 00:41:50,880
be their habitats need to be pleased by

1055
00:41:56,390 --> 00:41:52,980
whatever this energy is so they will

1056
00:41:58,670 --> 00:41:56,400
assume whatever it's almost like if you

1057
00:42:01,849 --> 00:41:58,680
have the everybody's on the same group

1058
00:42:04,250 --> 00:42:01,859
thinking right you have a hive mind and

1059
00:42:05,930 --> 00:42:04,260
if whatever's the majority is thinking

1060
00:42:08,030 --> 00:42:05,940
about is what this thing will manifest

1061
00:42:10,490 --> 00:42:08,040
it into Kyle and I discussed this off

1062
00:42:12,890 --> 00:42:10,500
here all the time about hat man why is

1063
00:42:14,569 --> 00:42:12,900
this Shadow Man the exact same thing

1064
00:42:16,970 --> 00:42:14,579
that everybody sees it doesn't make

1065
00:42:20,030 --> 00:42:16,980
sense that there's a shadow with a hat

1066
00:42:22,490 --> 00:42:20,040
why and why is it this certain Fedora or

1067
00:42:24,710 --> 00:42:22,500
this certain style hat none of that

1068
00:42:27,530 --> 00:42:24,720
makes sense but again it almost is like

1069
00:42:29,270 --> 00:42:27,540
it preys on the fear it knows that you

1070
00:42:32,210 --> 00:42:29,280
don't like it and you bring up

1071
00:42:33,470 --> 00:42:32,220
being able to see it I'm colorblind so I

1072
00:42:35,390 --> 00:42:33,480
don't see the world the way other people

1073
00:42:37,790 --> 00:42:35,400
see the world anybody that's colorblind

1074
00:42:39,710 --> 00:42:37,800
any of that so it always makes me think

1075
00:42:41,030 --> 00:42:39,720
that if that little bit can affect well

1076
00:42:43,790 --> 00:42:41,040
there's got to be people that can sense

1077
00:42:46,069 --> 00:42:43,800
and see other things we all have that

1078
00:42:47,990 --> 00:42:46,079
friend everybody listening has that

1079
00:42:49,550 --> 00:42:48,000
friend that's like man they always seem

1080
00:42:51,050 --> 00:42:49,560
to know what I'm going to call or they

1081
00:42:52,730 --> 00:42:51,060
always seem to know and if you don't

1082
00:42:55,490 --> 00:42:52,740
have that friend you're that friend

1083
00:42:57,530 --> 00:42:55,500
that's how this is so we always have

1084
00:43:00,650 --> 00:42:57,540
that we both have a very close personal

1085
00:43:03,349 --> 00:43:00,660
in our family that seems to be

1086
00:43:05,750 --> 00:43:03,359
I hate to say Affliction but almost with

1087
00:43:07,490 --> 00:43:05,760
this to where if something weird and

1088
00:43:09,950 --> 00:43:07,500
strange and unusual is ever going to

1089
00:43:11,630 --> 00:43:09,960
happen it happens to them first they're

1090
00:43:12,950 --> 00:43:11,640
the first one that notices the first one

1091
00:43:16,430 --> 00:43:12,960
that has something happened to them

1092
00:43:19,069 --> 00:43:16,440
because they get a response whatever

1093
00:43:21,050 --> 00:43:19,079
this thing is whatever this energy good

1094
00:43:22,790 --> 00:43:21,060
bad or indifferent when it finds

1095
00:43:25,069 --> 00:43:22,800
something that it can get or someone it

1096
00:43:27,109 --> 00:43:25,079
can get a response from it's almost like

1097
00:43:29,390 --> 00:43:27,119
feeding the Stray the Stray then knows

1098
00:43:33,050 --> 00:43:29,400
this is where I'm going this is where I

1099
00:43:35,450 --> 00:43:33,060
can go now to somewhat milk what I need

1100
00:43:37,430 --> 00:43:35,460
from this individual and then go on to

1101
00:43:39,950 --> 00:43:37,440
others and go on to others

1102
00:43:41,690 --> 00:43:39,960
when you look at these sightings

1103
00:43:43,490 --> 00:43:41,700
I always look at the age for which

1104
00:43:46,370 --> 00:43:43,500
they're reported I always go back to

1105
00:43:48,230 --> 00:43:46,380
like the idea of the nordics the the

1106
00:43:49,790 --> 00:43:48,240
alien nordics of the blonde-haired

1107
00:43:53,150 --> 00:43:49,800
blue-eyed where they don't make sense

1108
00:43:55,430 --> 00:43:53,160
they're almost human but not quite human

1109
00:43:57,230 --> 00:43:55,440
well there was a window of those reports

1110
00:44:00,050 --> 00:43:57,240
and then they seem to have fallen off

1111
00:44:02,329 --> 00:44:00,060
it's almost like it's morphed or changed

1112
00:44:04,910 --> 00:44:02,339
into whatever we see now and it comes in

1113
00:44:06,710 --> 00:44:04,920
these waves and to me it always feels

1114
00:44:09,050 --> 00:44:06,720
like they're adapting they're overcoming

1115
00:44:10,849 --> 00:44:09,060
they're moving in whatever it is whether

1116
00:44:12,430 --> 00:44:10,859
it gets told that that's an old wives

1117
00:44:15,530 --> 00:44:12,440
tale or we don't believe in that anymore

1118
00:44:17,990 --> 00:44:15,540
whatever it sticks away it almost Finds

1119
00:44:19,730 --> 00:44:18,000
Its way to find you and it just keeps

1120
00:44:22,069 --> 00:44:19,740
adjusting itself to stay ahead of the

1121
00:44:23,210 --> 00:44:22,079
curve and I know it doesn't explain all

1122
00:44:26,150 --> 00:44:23,220
of it because I don't feel that

1123
00:44:27,890 --> 00:44:26,160
Bigfoot's that way I for some reason and

1124
00:44:30,950 --> 00:44:27,900
again we tell everybody this all the

1125
00:44:32,809 --> 00:44:30,960
time I am a day by day Bigfoot believer

1126
00:44:34,670 --> 00:44:32,819
One morning I get up and I'm dead said

1127
00:44:37,069 --> 00:44:34,680
it's there the next one and I get up and

1128
00:44:40,010 --> 00:44:37,079
I'm like there is no way that's out

1129
00:44:41,930 --> 00:44:40,020
there and that changes every 24 hours

1130
00:44:45,050 --> 00:44:41,940
because it might be a little bit of

1131
00:44:47,030 --> 00:44:45,060
something up I can't shake that off and

1132
00:44:48,710 --> 00:44:47,040
I guess we know people that have

1133
00:44:50,870 --> 00:44:48,720
personally had encounters that we have

1134
00:44:53,210 --> 00:44:50,880
set across the table from and spoke to

1135
00:44:54,530 --> 00:44:53,220
and I know they believe it and like we

1136
00:44:57,710 --> 00:44:54,540
always tell our favorite my favorite

1137
00:44:59,030 --> 00:44:57,720
Bigfoot story is about a non-bigfoot

1138
00:45:01,910 --> 00:44:59,040
it's about what they thought was a

1139
00:45:04,970 --> 00:45:01,920
Bigfoot but they believe it it has the

1140
00:45:06,890 --> 00:45:04,980
same effect so it unless I have a siding

1141
00:45:09,170 --> 00:45:06,900
myself and if I do I'm never going to

1142
00:45:11,030 --> 00:45:09,180
tell anybody I'm never going to kill a

1143
00:45:12,890 --> 00:45:11,040
school if I give you this I'm just going

1144
00:45:14,630 --> 00:45:12,900
to be like well I kind of changed my

1145
00:45:16,190 --> 00:45:14,640
mind and then that that's that'll be the

1146
00:45:17,569 --> 00:45:16,200
dead giveaway when I'm everywhere you're

1147
00:45:19,069 --> 00:45:17,579
not flip-flopping when you're just one

1148
00:45:20,750 --> 00:45:19,079
way all the time that'll be the shoes

1149
00:45:23,390 --> 00:45:20,760
that's the giveaway that something

1150
00:45:25,309 --> 00:45:23,400
happened because we always joke I'll go

1151
00:45:27,530 --> 00:45:25,319
hunt Bigfoot but I won't go hunt ghosts

1152
00:45:29,210 --> 00:45:27,540
because Bigfoot can attach itself to you

1153
00:45:32,030 --> 00:45:29,220
or hide in the back of your truck right

1154
00:45:34,490 --> 00:45:32,040
but something with evil this hat man

1155
00:45:36,290 --> 00:45:34,500
these shadow men whatever this is

1156
00:45:39,410 --> 00:45:36,300
something about it seems to have the

1157
00:45:41,809 --> 00:45:39,420
ability to connect itself to you or to

1158
00:45:44,510 --> 00:45:41,819
somebody or to a place to where these

1159
00:45:46,370 --> 00:45:44,520
others seem like somewhat natural and I

1160
00:45:48,470 --> 00:45:46,380
know they're not but they do seem

1161
00:45:50,510 --> 00:45:48,480
somewhat natural and I don't know why

1162
00:45:52,370 --> 00:45:50,520
that is but I just that's the route that

1163
00:45:54,589 --> 00:45:52,380
I go every time I think of anything like

1164
00:45:56,870 --> 00:45:54,599
that and it could be Fey related well

1165
00:45:59,030 --> 00:45:56,880
and one of my favorite stories I ever

1166
00:46:02,210 --> 00:45:59,040
received here at the show from a

1167
00:46:04,010 --> 00:46:02,220
listener regarding the like Hat Man and

1168
00:46:05,089 --> 00:46:04,020
the rake and stuff is this person I

1169
00:46:08,270 --> 00:46:05,099
don't remember his name I think it was

1170
00:46:10,550 --> 00:46:08,280
Anonymous anyways but several years ago

1171
00:46:12,530 --> 00:46:10,560
he started having trouble in his

1172
00:46:14,990 --> 00:46:12,540
marriage and he began to drink and

1173
00:46:16,670 --> 00:46:15,000
started getting addicted to pain pills I

1174
00:46:18,349 --> 00:46:16,680
think he hurt his back at work you know

1175
00:46:20,510 --> 00:46:18,359
and was given a prescription like normal

1176
00:46:22,569 --> 00:46:20,520
but then it just got out of hand and his

1177
00:46:25,910 --> 00:46:22,579
life was like spiraling out of control

1178
00:46:29,150 --> 00:46:25,920
and that's when he started having these

1179
00:46:31,490 --> 00:46:29,160
encounters with the hat man and he

1180
00:46:34,130 --> 00:46:31,500
actually saw a rake more than once in

1181
00:46:36,650 --> 00:46:34,140
his home and you know and he was plagued

1182
00:46:38,089 --> 00:46:36,660
by this thing for about two years uh he

1183
00:46:39,710 --> 00:46:38,099
would see it you know just randomly

1184
00:46:41,390 --> 00:46:39,720
sometimes in the hallway one time I

1185
00:46:44,210 --> 00:46:41,400
think it was in his kitchen

1186
00:46:46,130 --> 00:46:44,220
anyways slowly he you know he was

1187
00:46:47,870 --> 00:46:46,140
eventually divorced and eventually he

1188
00:46:50,930 --> 00:46:47,880
was able to clean his life up he found

1189
00:46:52,550 --> 00:46:50,940
God joined a church I went to rehab and

1190
00:46:54,530 --> 00:46:52,560
kicked all his addictions and now he's

1191
00:46:57,890 --> 00:46:54,540
you know 100 better but once he did that

1192
00:46:59,630 --> 00:46:57,900
he never had an encounter again he never

1193
00:47:01,849 --> 00:46:59,640
saw a crawler again he never had a visit

1194
00:47:04,970 --> 00:47:01,859
from the Hat man so it makes you wonder

1195
00:47:07,250 --> 00:47:04,980
too is do these things not only attack

1196
00:47:08,750 --> 00:47:07,260
or attach themselves to people who are

1197
00:47:10,970 --> 00:47:08,760
sensitive but

1198
00:47:13,329 --> 00:47:10,980
it depends on your state and mind and

1199
00:47:16,309 --> 00:47:13,339
your spirit like how you are spiritually

1200
00:47:18,530 --> 00:47:16,319
uh if you're having a rough time if you

1201
00:47:20,329 --> 00:47:18,540
just lost a loved one you know are you

1202
00:47:22,370 --> 00:47:20,339
more sensitive can they sense that and

1203
00:47:24,109 --> 00:47:22,380
then they you know they try to manifest

1204
00:47:25,609 --> 00:47:24,119
themselves to weaker people

1205
00:47:27,410 --> 00:47:25,619
because they're not he's someone who's

1206
00:47:29,510 --> 00:47:27,420
spiritually strong these things don't

1207
00:47:32,210 --> 00:47:29,520
have a chance right they're not going to

1208
00:47:34,370 --> 00:47:32,220
be able to sway yeah I don't feel it

1209
00:47:37,250 --> 00:47:34,380
somebody that's in despair has a bad

1210
00:47:38,630 --> 00:47:37,260
addiction problem these are these are

1211
00:47:40,370 --> 00:47:38,640
someone that there's things if they are

1212
00:47:43,910 --> 00:47:40,380
truly demonic that's who they're going

1213
00:47:46,069 --> 00:47:43,920
to select to pick on right well I think

1214
00:47:48,170 --> 00:47:46,079
I think a lot of these entities and

1215
00:47:49,930 --> 00:47:48,180
beings are attracted to dysfunction for

1216
00:47:52,609 --> 00:47:49,940
the most part anyway

1217
00:47:54,770 --> 00:47:52,619
you hear people talk about Shadow People

1218
00:47:58,010 --> 00:47:54,780
and those being

1219
00:48:01,670 --> 00:47:58,020
uh something other than what a normal

1220
00:48:03,770 --> 00:48:01,680
Spirit or Earthbound entity would be uh

1221
00:48:06,530 --> 00:48:03,780
possibly extraterrestrial they seem to

1222
00:48:09,050 --> 00:48:06,540
feed off of dysfunction and misery and

1223
00:48:11,750 --> 00:48:09,060
such and I just don't think that's

1224
00:48:13,970 --> 00:48:11,760
associated only with with the the shadow

1225
00:48:16,490 --> 00:48:13,980
people I think of course this may be

1226
00:48:20,210 --> 00:48:16,500
something else again we're talking about

1227
00:48:23,089 --> 00:48:20,220
uh predisposition people who are

1228
00:48:26,089 --> 00:48:23,099
I mean these things attract to

1229
00:48:29,210 --> 00:48:26,099
yeah and you know a lot of times when I

1230
00:48:33,109 --> 00:48:29,220
get Witnesses or people I'm working with

1231
00:48:34,790 --> 00:48:33,119
who who do have these encounters many of

1232
00:48:39,290 --> 00:48:34,800
them were gifted many of them are either

1233
00:48:40,430 --> 00:48:39,300
impasse or beacons or psychic or or

1234
00:48:43,450 --> 00:48:40,440
something

1235
00:48:46,790 --> 00:48:43,460
that have some type of intuitive gift

1236
00:48:50,210 --> 00:48:46,800
uh that they they

1237
00:48:52,910 --> 00:48:50,220
you know to pre you know that they're

1238
00:48:54,109 --> 00:48:52,920
actually uh attracted to it for that

1239
00:48:55,910 --> 00:48:54,119
reason

1240
00:48:58,910 --> 00:48:55,920
I have the opposite of that I can't even

1241
00:49:00,829 --> 00:48:58,920
find my car keys in the morning oh 100.

1242
00:49:03,530 --> 00:49:00,839
nothing's ever going to show itself to

1243
00:49:05,750 --> 00:49:03,540
me you know it's funny uh yeah but it's

1244
00:49:07,790 --> 00:49:05,760
funny you know I think each of us do

1245
00:49:09,890 --> 00:49:07,800
have to question our sanity sometimes

1246
00:49:11,450 --> 00:49:09,900
you know we wake up like you said you

1247
00:49:14,450 --> 00:49:11,460
wake up and you're you got a different

1248
00:49:17,930 --> 00:49:14,460
position on Bigfoot I I do it all the

1249
00:49:20,750 --> 00:49:17,940
time I I I I look at my morning mail

1250
00:49:22,609 --> 00:49:20,760
and I'm thinking what in the hell is

1251
00:49:25,010 --> 00:49:22,619
going how did I get involved with this

1252
00:49:26,750 --> 00:49:25,020
what the what am I doing doing this you

1253
00:49:29,390 --> 00:49:26,760
know it just brought more questions

1254
00:49:32,930 --> 00:49:29,400
that's all absolutely it's just made me

1255
00:49:35,510 --> 00:49:32,940
crazy ER it's all it's done I'm like now

1256
00:49:37,130 --> 00:49:35,520
there's it's it just opens a can of

1257
00:49:39,290 --> 00:49:37,140
worms but we say that all the time like

1258
00:49:41,089 --> 00:49:39,300
when you start digging into it you won't

1259
00:49:43,550 --> 00:49:41,099
find answers and anybody listening you

1260
00:49:46,130 --> 00:49:43,560
won't find answers all you're going to

1261
00:49:47,930 --> 00:49:46,140
do is go deeper and deeper and deeper

1262
00:49:51,430 --> 00:49:47,940
down that hole until it just makes you

1263
00:49:56,750 --> 00:49:54,470
thank God you are cataloging and keeping

1264
00:49:58,609 --> 00:49:56,760
all these stories because your website

1265
00:50:02,030 --> 00:49:58,619
is the mecca for these sightings yeah I

1266
00:50:04,370 --> 00:50:02,040
mean literally uh yeah well I tell you

1267
00:50:06,710 --> 00:50:04,380
it's uh it's a chore sometimes but and

1268
00:50:09,290 --> 00:50:06,720
you know but you gotta Wade through all

1269
00:50:10,550 --> 00:50:09,300
of it uh you talk about the separating

1270
00:50:12,370 --> 00:50:10,560
the week from the champ well you know

1271
00:50:15,230 --> 00:50:12,380
what you you guys get stuff all the time

1272
00:50:17,990 --> 00:50:15,240
and uh I mean

1273
00:50:20,210 --> 00:50:18,000
if you took everything literal you would

1274
00:50:22,130 --> 00:50:20,220
be crazy oh oh yeah yeah yeah yeah

1275
00:50:24,230 --> 00:50:22,140
absolutely well and that's what's so

1276
00:50:28,309 --> 00:50:24,240
wild is some of the stories that we get

1277
00:50:30,050 --> 00:50:28,319
it will be a quick concise hey I just

1278
00:50:32,270 --> 00:50:30,060
happen to have this little thing happen

1279
00:50:34,849 --> 00:50:32,280
and I went back and it wasn't there but

1280
00:50:37,250 --> 00:50:34,859
I know for a fact what I saw and it's

1281
00:50:39,470 --> 00:50:37,260
just those little bitty it's almost like

1282
00:50:41,270 --> 00:50:39,480
they were poking to find just a weakness

1283
00:50:43,550 --> 00:50:41,280
in the armor of whatever these people

1284
00:50:45,589 --> 00:50:43,560
walked by whatever they did and then you

1285
00:50:46,910 --> 00:50:45,599
find other people that are like I had

1286
00:50:49,250 --> 00:50:46,920
this siding and I didn't think anything

1287
00:50:50,990 --> 00:50:49,260
of it and then I couldn't get it out of

1288
00:50:52,970 --> 00:50:51,000
my mind and then it started plaguing me

1289
00:50:54,950 --> 00:50:52,980
and then the next thing you know is this

1290
00:50:56,990 --> 00:50:54,960
thing or whatever it is they've had

1291
00:50:58,849 --> 00:50:57,000
multiple encounters with it after that

1292
00:51:00,349 --> 00:50:58,859
and you brought up the empaths and all

1293
00:51:01,670 --> 00:51:00,359
that I I don't feel like there's

1294
00:51:03,470 --> 00:51:01,680
something too oh maybe that's something

1295
00:51:06,290 --> 00:51:03,480
to that maybe that's literally happening

1296
00:51:07,730 --> 00:51:06,300
maybe these things are everybody on the

1297
00:51:08,930 --> 00:51:07,740
planet they're just picking up the ones

1298
00:51:10,190 --> 00:51:08,940
that really notice it and that's the

1299
00:51:11,510 --> 00:51:10,200
ones they mess with they're tapping me

1300
00:51:12,890 --> 00:51:11,520
on the left shoulder and I'm turning to

1301
00:51:15,770 --> 00:51:12,900
the right it's one of those like what

1302
00:51:17,750 --> 00:51:15,780
yeah that's yeah

1303
00:51:19,670 --> 00:51:17,760
one could be living in here right now I

1304
00:51:21,170 --> 00:51:19,680
wouldn't know it

1305
00:51:24,349 --> 00:51:21,180
get to some of the questions because

1306
00:51:26,569 --> 00:51:24,359
they're plowing up so um

1307
00:51:29,150 --> 00:51:26,579
Grand Master UV

1308
00:51:33,290 --> 00:51:29,160
they want to know what you guys think

1309
00:51:35,390 --> 00:51:33,300
about UFOs and how they work uh Electro

1310
00:51:38,870 --> 00:51:35,400
gravity

1311
00:51:42,109 --> 00:51:38,880
revito or magnetic kinetic force fields

1312
00:51:44,530 --> 00:51:42,119
what are your thoughts on UFOs well

1313
00:51:47,089 --> 00:51:44,540
having never seen one I do not know but

1314
00:51:48,890 --> 00:51:47,099
uh some information that was leaked many

1315
00:51:51,049 --> 00:51:48,900
years ago and is now being leaked again

1316
00:51:52,190 --> 00:51:51,059
by the government I'd have to say I

1317
00:51:55,309 --> 00:51:52,200
would believe

1318
00:51:57,290 --> 00:51:55,319
what Bob Lazar described uh talking

1319
00:51:59,329 --> 00:51:57,300
about the the blue like aura that

1320
00:52:02,450 --> 00:51:59,339
surrounds the craft it uses a Rare

1321
00:52:04,010 --> 00:52:02,460
Element moscovium Element 115 I believe

1322
00:52:06,230 --> 00:52:04,020
maybe the number of the minerals

1323
00:52:08,569 --> 00:52:06,240
definitely moscovium uh and that that

1324
00:52:10,430 --> 00:52:08,579
uses with no wires somehow device and

1325
00:52:12,349 --> 00:52:10,440
it's anti-gravidic and that's how it

1326
00:52:14,030 --> 00:52:12,359
moves through space he even talked about

1327
00:52:16,010 --> 00:52:14,040
how it would shift and move that way

1328
00:52:18,049 --> 00:52:16,020
right and when you look at the the

1329
00:52:21,049 --> 00:52:18,059
videos that were released that's exactly

1330
00:52:22,670 --> 00:52:21,059
what this thing's doing and back in the

1331
00:52:24,290 --> 00:52:22,680
day you know they tried to discredit Bob

1332
00:52:25,790 --> 00:52:24,300
they tried to say he didn't work at Los

1333
00:52:27,589 --> 00:52:25,800
Alamos and all that but then you know it

1334
00:52:29,510 --> 00:52:27,599
comes out that he did he was in the

1335
00:52:31,670 --> 00:52:29,520
phone book they've talked to several

1336
00:52:33,049 --> 00:52:31,680
people that knew where he that worked

1337
00:52:35,510 --> 00:52:33,059
there with him so that was you know

1338
00:52:37,250 --> 00:52:35,520
thrown out they tried to say that he

1339
00:52:38,390 --> 00:52:37,260
didn't go to MIT it didn't go to

1340
00:52:39,589 --> 00:52:38,400
Berkeley but then there's people that

1341
00:52:42,650 --> 00:52:39,599
said that they would take them and drop

1342
00:52:45,470 --> 00:52:42,660
them off for school uh whether you get

1343
00:52:46,970 --> 00:52:45,480
hired with eg and G the guy that hired

1344
00:52:49,010 --> 00:52:46,980
him like everything Bob said has now

1345
00:52:51,950 --> 00:52:49,020
come to light it was 100 accurate even

1346
00:52:54,170 --> 00:52:51,960
the little bone uh x-raying thing that

1347
00:52:56,750 --> 00:52:54,180
was allowed to get them into the you

1348
00:52:59,210 --> 00:52:56,760
know fought the Janus flights into S4

1349
00:53:02,150 --> 00:52:59,220
like that's been proven so

1350
00:53:04,069 --> 00:53:02,160
without having ever seen a UFO myself I

1351
00:53:05,569 --> 00:53:04,079
think that they work anti-gravidically I

1352
00:53:08,270 --> 00:53:05,579
just have to believe Bob

1353
00:53:10,069 --> 00:53:08,280
I'm gonna defer to Bob Lazar yeah that's

1354
00:53:11,630 --> 00:53:10,079
that's the way I'm like I'm gonna have

1355
00:53:13,370 --> 00:53:11,640
to go with what he said it's the reason

1356
00:53:15,530 --> 00:53:13,380
how it moves the way it does yeah look

1357
00:53:18,170 --> 00:53:15,540
Los Angeles I mean the craft looks

1358
00:53:19,790 --> 00:53:18,180
almost identical to the same ones that

1359
00:53:21,470 --> 00:53:19,800
David fraver and then videotaped with

1360
00:53:22,849 --> 00:53:21,480
their Fleer pods I don't even want to

1361
00:53:24,230 --> 00:53:22,859
get into that because I'll start having

1362
00:53:25,569 --> 00:53:24,240
a panic attack talking about those

1363
00:53:27,730 --> 00:53:25,579
things

1364
00:53:30,770 --> 00:53:27,740
oh

1365
00:53:32,870 --> 00:53:30,780
let's see here Vincent wants to know is

1366
00:53:35,870 --> 00:53:32,880
there a connection between the UFO

1367
00:53:37,150 --> 00:53:35,880
sightings over O'Hare and the winged

1368
00:53:40,130 --> 00:53:37,160
humanoids

1369
00:53:41,990 --> 00:53:40,140
I I think there is a connection because

1370
00:53:44,390 --> 00:53:42,000
we have

1371
00:53:47,270 --> 00:53:44,400
from what has been described to us now

1372
00:53:48,890 --> 00:53:47,280
I'm just going by what people on the

1373
00:53:50,690 --> 00:53:48,900
team have picked up

1374
00:53:53,329 --> 00:53:50,700
is that

1375
00:53:56,510 --> 00:53:53,339
they're not these winged humanoids are

1376
00:53:59,030 --> 00:53:56,520
not connected to the UFOs or those

1377
00:54:01,730 --> 00:53:59,040
beings that are you know that are

1378
00:54:04,250 --> 00:54:01,740
piloting these things but for whatever

1379
00:54:06,230 --> 00:54:04,260
reason

1380
00:54:08,750 --> 00:54:06,240
they're attracted to these winged

1381
00:54:10,970 --> 00:54:08,760
humanoids and they they seem to show up

1382
00:54:13,849 --> 00:54:10,980
after the sightings

1383
00:54:15,950 --> 00:54:13,859
with these beings uh we had a uh in

1384
00:54:19,309 --> 00:54:15,960
particular we had a um

1385
00:54:22,010 --> 00:54:19,319
uh we had a uh

1386
00:54:26,630 --> 00:54:22,020
security guard who saw one of these

1387
00:54:28,370 --> 00:54:26,640
beings in in a in a construction site in

1388
00:54:29,630 --> 00:54:28,380
the southwest area where they've been

1389
00:54:32,450 --> 00:54:29,640
doing construction there for a couple

1390
00:54:36,829 --> 00:54:32,460
years now and he went to look and he saw

1391
00:54:38,210 --> 00:54:36,839
it and then a big v-shaped UFO showed up

1392
00:54:41,390 --> 00:54:38,220
all of a sudden

1393
00:54:43,609 --> 00:54:41,400
uh and this thing took off because of

1394
00:54:44,750 --> 00:54:43,619
this this UFO showing up this crap

1395
00:54:47,150 --> 00:54:44,760
showing up

1396
00:54:50,630 --> 00:54:47,160
so I I don't think they're associated

1397
00:54:53,390 --> 00:54:50,640
with it but I I think these I think

1398
00:54:54,290 --> 00:54:53,400
these crafts show up because of it I

1399
00:54:55,849 --> 00:54:54,300
don't know I don't know what you guys

1400
00:54:58,609 --> 00:54:55,859
think about that they might be privy to

1401
00:55:01,609 --> 00:54:58,619
the idea I always I like to think that

1402
00:55:03,230 --> 00:55:01,619
they are chasing them like they are out

1403
00:55:04,970 --> 00:55:03,240
here trying to catch them trying to do

1404
00:55:07,130 --> 00:55:04,980
whatever like maybe that's what Earth Is

1405
00:55:09,049 --> 00:55:07,140
Right is it's a Battleground for all of

1406
00:55:11,030 --> 00:55:09,059
this stuff and they're coming here to do

1407
00:55:13,609 --> 00:55:11,040
I mean we don't know then I mean any any

1408
00:55:15,349 --> 00:55:13,619
theory is good as any but it does it

1409
00:55:16,490 --> 00:55:15,359
does seem funny that they seem to show

1410
00:55:19,309 --> 00:55:16,500
up

1411
00:55:21,849 --> 00:55:19,319
after that I mean we get reports of them

1412
00:55:25,490 --> 00:55:21,859
people seeing UFOs around Bigfoot size

1413
00:55:26,809 --> 00:55:25,500
and there's a lot of that stuff that I

1414
00:55:28,069 --> 00:55:26,819
personally don't know that they're I

1415
00:55:30,349 --> 00:55:28,079
don't believe that they're connected

1416
00:55:32,809 --> 00:55:30,359
other than they're like us they want to

1417
00:55:34,250 --> 00:55:32,819
know they see it they go to it I don't

1418
00:55:36,349 --> 00:55:34,260
know maybe they want to be the only cool

1419
00:55:37,849 --> 00:55:36,359
guys in the on the planet so they want

1420
00:55:39,349 --> 00:55:37,859
to run all the rest of them off or get

1421
00:55:42,470 --> 00:55:39,359
them and put them maybe they got out of

1422
00:55:44,210 --> 00:55:42,480
the UFO zoo I don't know patch yeah my

1423
00:55:47,150 --> 00:55:44,220
favorite theory is that Bigfoot is

1424
00:55:48,890 --> 00:55:47,160
associated with UFOs and dog man is

1425
00:55:51,109 --> 00:55:48,900
actually Bigfoot's pet and like they

1426
00:55:52,849 --> 00:55:51,119
just stop here let him out yeah use the

1427
00:55:54,710 --> 00:55:52,859
bathroom they lose control it it gets

1428
00:55:57,710 --> 00:55:54,720
loose take him for a walk and he got

1429
00:55:59,750 --> 00:55:57,720
loose yeah I mean why not right I mean

1430
00:56:01,370 --> 00:55:59,760
it's that's a whole nother thing you get

1431
00:56:03,109 --> 00:56:01,380
into the dog man stories that's a whole

1432
00:56:05,630 --> 00:56:03,119
another can of worms there that I'm like

1433
00:56:07,370 --> 00:56:05,640
I don't even know well I'm working on

1434
00:56:09,230 --> 00:56:07,380
I'm working on a cryptic canine book

1435
00:56:11,270 --> 00:56:09,240
right now and um

1436
00:56:13,549 --> 00:56:11,280
I mean it's like that's a whole

1437
00:56:15,710 --> 00:56:13,559
different level of

1438
00:56:17,809 --> 00:56:15,720
craziness because you know there's

1439
00:56:19,430 --> 00:56:17,819
there's really no Rhyme or Reason for

1440
00:56:21,650 --> 00:56:19,440
those things

1441
00:56:23,270 --> 00:56:21,660
um we've had a lot of sightings here in

1442
00:56:24,950 --> 00:56:23,280
Pennsylvania you know when Butch was

1443
00:56:27,490 --> 00:56:24,960
around we used to work on it all the

1444
00:56:30,710 --> 00:56:27,500
time he was always on it

1445
00:56:34,910 --> 00:56:30,720
and then this year we started getting

1446
00:56:38,329 --> 00:56:34,920
sightings in the state we had like six

1447
00:56:41,390 --> 00:56:38,339
Active cases at one time going on so

1448
00:56:43,490 --> 00:56:41,400
I don't know God it it just it just

1449
00:56:46,190 --> 00:56:43,500
keeps going on and going on and there's

1450
00:56:49,750 --> 00:56:46,200
no real explanation of course

1451
00:56:51,950 --> 00:56:49,760
so well I I you know I don't know

1452
00:56:55,069 --> 00:56:51,960
oh me too I'm looking forward to the

1453
00:56:57,890 --> 00:56:55,079
book Lon yeah well that you know it's

1454
00:56:59,450 --> 00:56:57,900
gonna take a while you know I had I it

1455
00:57:01,970 --> 00:56:59,460
kind of got delayed because of surgery

1456
00:57:04,490 --> 00:57:01,980
and a few other things and uh I'm

1457
00:57:06,349 --> 00:57:04,500
starting to get back into it but I I

1458
00:57:08,150 --> 00:57:06,359
will I will get it out sometime this

1459
00:57:11,329 --> 00:57:08,160
year

1460
00:57:13,849 --> 00:57:11,339
um Tyson Davis asked could there be a

1461
00:57:16,250 --> 00:57:13,859
correlation between Rising crime in an

1462
00:57:19,309 --> 00:57:16,260
area and sightings the Cryptids

1463
00:57:21,530 --> 00:57:19,319
well I think it could be

1464
00:57:23,089 --> 00:57:21,540
um I think you know I know I told you

1465
00:57:25,130 --> 00:57:23,099
guys about Chicago and people were

1466
00:57:27,410 --> 00:57:25,140
worried about and scared

1467
00:57:29,569 --> 00:57:27,420
was there a crime was because of the

1468
00:57:31,849 --> 00:57:29,579
high crime in Chicago I don't know you

1469
00:57:33,349 --> 00:57:31,859
know I get a lot of people that that try

1470
00:57:35,690 --> 00:57:33,359
to connect that

1471
00:57:38,510 --> 00:57:35,700
but there just doesn't really seem to be

1472
00:57:39,950 --> 00:57:38,520
a connection overall to that I don't

1473
00:57:42,710 --> 00:57:39,960
know well you got to see the crime in

1474
00:57:44,390 --> 00:57:42,720
general as it is the suffering well that

1475
00:57:46,069 --> 00:57:44,400
may be you know what I'm saying is like

1476
00:57:47,390 --> 00:57:46,079
the suffering of things might be because

1477
00:57:51,049 --> 00:57:47,400
of where they always see it in and

1478
00:57:53,329 --> 00:57:51,059
around I'm curious to see what comes out

1479
00:57:55,910 --> 00:57:53,339
after the Russian Ukrainian War if there

1480
00:57:57,470 --> 00:57:55,920
was any strange sightings of UFOs if

1481
00:57:59,510 --> 00:57:57,480
there's any strange sightings of maybe

1482
00:58:01,609 --> 00:57:59,520
flying human notes anything like that

1483
00:58:03,770 --> 00:58:01,619
that was going on that gets reported

1484
00:58:05,809 --> 00:58:03,780
after all this goes well a few things

1485
00:58:07,670 --> 00:58:05,819
have been leaking out yeah because

1486
00:58:10,370 --> 00:58:07,680
there's always strange sightings so that

1487
00:58:12,109 --> 00:58:10,380
World War One World War II uh Vietnam

1488
00:58:13,790 --> 00:58:12,119
there's desert storms Desert Storm

1489
00:58:16,309 --> 00:58:13,800
there's always strange sightings during

1490
00:58:18,049 --> 00:58:16,319
conflicts of War especially UFO sighting

1491
00:58:19,490 --> 00:58:18,059
so yeah I'd be very interested to find

1492
00:58:22,549 --> 00:58:19,500
out what's going on in the Ukraine

1493
00:58:24,589 --> 00:58:22,559
Russian war well I mean until we get

1494
00:58:26,870 --> 00:58:24,599
actual boots in the ground if we do get

1495
00:58:29,750 --> 00:58:26,880
boots in the ground in in the Ukraine I

1496
00:58:30,950 --> 00:58:29,760
I or any type of War which I hope we

1497
00:58:33,410 --> 00:58:30,960
don't but

1498
00:58:35,030 --> 00:58:33,420
uh then stuff will come out I mean if

1499
00:58:36,950 --> 00:58:35,040
you get U.S Personnel going in there

1500
00:58:39,650 --> 00:58:36,960
then stories are going to get out

1501
00:58:41,750 --> 00:58:39,660
uh but there have been some sightings I

1502
00:58:45,289 --> 00:58:41,760
mean of some strange things particularly

1503
00:58:47,750 --> 00:58:45,299
UFO activity yeah so uh and I'm starting

1504
00:58:51,589 --> 00:58:47,760
to get all right I'm starting to get

1505
00:58:55,130 --> 00:58:51,599
Bigfoot in Crimea too and

1506
00:58:59,089 --> 00:58:55,140
you know it's nuts yeah

1507
00:59:02,089 --> 00:58:59,099
um Nancy Malcolm have have both men been

1508
00:59:04,670 --> 00:59:02,099
cited from Planes in Flight you know

1509
00:59:08,089 --> 00:59:04,680
so far I don't think I've gotten any of

1510
00:59:09,530 --> 00:59:08,099
those but who knows yeah I don't I don't

1511
00:59:11,270 --> 00:59:09,540
think I've ever heard of one no I don't

1512
00:59:14,750 --> 00:59:11,280
think I have yet

1513
00:59:16,250 --> 00:59:14,760
no not not not Mothman I do too high

1514
00:59:18,650 --> 00:59:16,260
they're like 500 Footers maybe they

1515
00:59:20,690 --> 00:59:18,660
can't breathe above 14 000 feet I do

1516
00:59:22,970 --> 00:59:20,700
oxygen there's a little breathe up there

1517
00:59:25,430 --> 00:59:22,980
not Mothman but I do remember the the

1518
00:59:28,190 --> 00:59:25,440
stories from World War II of several

1519
00:59:31,250 --> 00:59:28,200
Pilots fighter pilots and bombers having

1520
00:59:32,809 --> 00:59:31,260
not just Street Fighters but Gremlins on

1521
00:59:36,049 --> 00:59:32,819
the wings which inspired the Twilight

1522
00:59:37,510 --> 00:59:36,059
Zone show and and but like uh William

1523
00:59:39,829 --> 00:59:37,520
Shatner yeah

1524
00:59:41,930 --> 00:59:39,839
like but those stores that story was

1525
00:59:43,609 --> 00:59:41,940
showing our age now that story's from an

1526
00:59:45,109 --> 00:59:43,619
original stories that there are yeah

1527
00:59:47,270 --> 00:59:45,119
people that were claiming that there was

1528
00:59:49,010 --> 00:59:47,280
these straw encrypted looking Fey like

1529
00:59:50,210 --> 00:59:49,020
the windy creatures tampering with their

1530
00:59:51,950 --> 00:59:50,220
equipment

1531
00:59:53,870 --> 00:59:51,960
and they would see him on the wings and

1532
00:59:55,930 --> 00:59:53,880
stuff but that not never a Mothman not

1533
01:00:00,230 --> 00:59:55,940
in my you have not heard of one

1534
01:00:02,270 --> 01:00:00,240
yeah we've gotten pilots who have um who

1535
01:00:04,970 --> 01:00:02,280
I've seen them on the tormac

1536
01:00:07,609 --> 01:00:04,980
but uh as far as actually up in in

1537
01:00:09,190 --> 01:00:07,619
Flight I I don't know of any

1538
01:00:13,970 --> 01:00:09,200
I don't know of any

1539
01:00:18,170 --> 01:00:13,980
uh Patty Filson is that a relationship

1540
01:00:20,630 --> 01:00:18,180
yeah that's my mom okay what about the

1541
01:00:23,270 --> 01:00:20,640
lights over Stevenson years ago yeah

1542
01:00:25,609 --> 01:00:23,280
yeah it's Stephenville not Stevenson but

1543
01:00:27,049 --> 01:00:25,619
uh yeah uh there's a lot of people

1544
01:00:29,210 --> 01:00:27,059
that's not that far from here it's about

1545
01:00:31,069 --> 01:00:29,220
30 miles 27 miles from right

1546
01:00:33,289 --> 01:00:31,079
alternatively reside so yeah back in the

1547
01:00:35,390 --> 01:00:33,299
day when it happened uh there was a lot

1548
01:00:37,970 --> 01:00:35,400
of people that I that I knew that didn't

1549
01:00:39,289 --> 01:00:37,980
see it but knew the guy that saw it so

1550
01:00:41,089 --> 01:00:39,299
it was seen by a couple of people

1551
01:00:43,609 --> 01:00:41,099
there's a bunch of stories that was

1552
01:00:46,010 --> 01:00:43,619
spread around it being flares and all

1553
01:00:47,930 --> 01:00:46,020
and it absolutely when you talk to the

1554
01:00:49,789 --> 01:00:47,940
people that did reports saying it was

1555
01:00:52,190 --> 01:00:49,799
nothing like what they tried to play it

1556
01:00:54,470 --> 01:00:52,200
off as and what's odd is you know like

1557
01:00:55,910 --> 01:00:54,480
it was being followed like there's it

1558
01:00:57,710 --> 01:00:55,920
fits into the same stuff as like the

1559
01:00:59,630 --> 01:00:57,720
lights in Arizona right they're the

1560
01:01:02,870 --> 01:00:59,640
Carswell Air Force Base it falls right

1561
01:01:04,549 --> 01:01:02,880
here f-16s that were you know sent out

1562
01:01:06,530 --> 01:01:04,559
to follow whatever it was and stuff so

1563
01:01:07,990 --> 01:01:06,540
you know if it was just a commercial

1564
01:01:10,670 --> 01:01:08,000
plane or something yeah

1565
01:01:12,410 --> 01:01:10,680
stevensonville thing has been that's

1566
01:01:15,650 --> 01:01:12,420
been an indignant to me because I had

1567
01:01:19,609 --> 01:01:15,660
talked to so many people who seen

1568
01:01:22,250 --> 01:01:19,619
those lights and has seen you know the

1569
01:01:24,950 --> 01:01:22,260
craft and such and uh

1570
01:01:26,630 --> 01:01:24,960
I I I really can't put my thumb on it

1571
01:01:28,910 --> 01:01:26,640
but I I know for a fact something

1572
01:01:32,089 --> 01:01:28,920
definitely happened out there and you

1573
01:01:33,410 --> 01:01:32,099
know it and it went on for so long

1574
01:01:36,349 --> 01:01:33,420
um yeah and one of the sightings of the

1575
01:01:39,770 --> 01:01:36,359
thing was massive yeah huge yeah like

1576
01:01:42,349 --> 01:01:39,780
multiple football fields in length

1577
01:01:44,089 --> 01:01:42,359
you know so I'm gonna forget that Aurora

1578
01:01:46,190 --> 01:01:44,099
is real close to us too

1579
01:01:49,010 --> 01:01:46,200
and that was an old UFO sighting one of

1580
01:01:52,309 --> 01:01:49,020
the first yeah or the correctional place

1581
01:01:55,010 --> 01:01:52,319
yeah people don't realize that that

1582
01:01:57,170 --> 01:01:55,020
Dallas Fort Worth area in the counties

1583
01:01:59,930 --> 01:01:57,180
around there had a lot of UFO activity

1584
01:02:01,789 --> 01:01:59,940
over years a lot

1585
01:02:03,589 --> 01:02:01,799
yeah well that's the fourth is where

1586
01:02:04,670 --> 01:02:03,599
they flew the the wreckage from Roswell

1587
01:02:10,549 --> 01:02:04,680
to first before it went to

1588
01:02:14,870 --> 01:02:12,650
yeah and you know what

1589
01:02:18,589 --> 01:02:16,730
I have heard I have heard so many

1590
01:02:22,730 --> 01:02:18,599
stories about

1591
01:02:24,770 --> 01:02:22,740
um about equipment from Roswell or some

1592
01:02:25,910 --> 01:02:24,780
of the debris that was picked up Roswell

1593
01:02:32,809 --> 01:02:25,920
ended up

1594
01:02:35,690 --> 01:02:32,819
Worth area in the in the Dallas area uh

1595
01:02:37,549 --> 01:02:35,700
before it went wherever it went and I

1596
01:02:41,089 --> 01:02:37,559
don't you know I I

1597
01:02:43,670 --> 01:02:41,099
my dad was in the 509th after oh or

1598
01:02:46,730 --> 01:02:43,680
during Korea this was this was after

1599
01:02:49,250 --> 01:02:46,740
Roswell but he he was stationed with a

1600
01:02:51,710 --> 01:02:49,260
lot of guys who were at Roswell so you

1601
01:02:53,750 --> 01:02:51,720
know over the years I got to talk to

1602
01:02:56,230 --> 01:02:53,760
some of these guys at reunions and stuff

1603
01:02:59,150 --> 01:02:56,240
and um something definitely happened

1604
01:03:01,190 --> 01:02:59,160
yeah something definitely happened but I

1605
01:03:04,730 --> 01:03:01,200
don't think you know everybody tries to

1606
01:03:06,950 --> 01:03:04,740
associate Roswell in the disposition of

1607
01:03:08,390 --> 01:03:06,960
everything going to Ray Patterson I just

1608
01:03:11,569 --> 01:03:08,400
don't believe that

1609
01:03:12,770 --> 01:03:11,579
right I I I believe and you know from

1610
01:03:14,990 --> 01:03:12,780
the evidence that I've gotten every

1611
01:03:18,049 --> 01:03:15,000
years it's down at one of the two air

1612
01:03:21,349 --> 01:03:18,059
bases in Florida but there is debris and

1613
01:03:24,530 --> 01:03:21,359
possibly bodies uh I I'm leading toward

1614
01:03:26,390 --> 01:03:24,540
Eglin Air Force base near Pensacola

1615
01:03:28,130 --> 01:03:26,400
sure yeah but

1616
01:03:30,589 --> 01:03:28,140
I definitely know that it was a weather

1617
01:03:32,270 --> 01:03:30,599
balloon all right it's definitely it

1618
01:03:34,309 --> 01:03:32,280
definitely wouldn't happen and those

1619
01:03:37,309 --> 01:03:34,319
guys will tell you that yeah you know

1620
01:03:39,530 --> 01:03:37,319
those guys will tell you that yeah uh

1621
01:03:41,870 --> 01:03:39,540
Nancy Malcolm have there been sightings

1622
01:03:44,270 --> 01:03:41,880
of Elementals where sightings of

1623
01:03:45,770 --> 01:03:44,280
crawlers Etc are gathering groups to

1624
01:03:48,710 --> 01:03:45,780
feed

1625
01:03:50,870 --> 01:03:48,720
hmm that's a good question it is funny

1626
01:03:53,089 --> 01:03:50,880
that you don't get a lot of I don't know

1627
01:03:55,910 --> 01:03:53,099
that I've ever read a story of there

1628
01:03:58,670 --> 01:03:55,920
being like multiple crawlers sided

1629
01:04:01,490 --> 01:03:58,680
together like we don't get like packs of

1630
01:04:03,890 --> 01:04:01,500
them yeah everything seems to be one-off

1631
01:04:06,410 --> 01:04:03,900
like all all of it seems to be solo

1632
01:04:08,390 --> 01:04:06,420
which is I'm not here I don't want to

1633
01:04:10,490 --> 01:04:08,400
come and turn into a whole Covey of

1634
01:04:12,470 --> 01:04:10,500
crawlers I don't need like a half a

1635
01:04:14,510 --> 01:04:12,480
dozen two dozen I don't care run it I

1636
01:04:15,710 --> 01:04:14,520
don't need that it always seems to just

1637
01:04:18,829 --> 01:04:15,720
be one

1638
01:04:23,150 --> 01:04:18,839
I only ever had one encounter one report

1639
01:04:26,569 --> 01:04:23,160
from Ontario where there was a farm

1640
01:04:29,390 --> 01:04:26,579
where multiple crawlers were seen it

1641
01:04:32,270 --> 01:04:29,400
and but that was it that's the only one

1642
01:04:35,089 --> 01:04:32,280
I can even think remember of being

1643
01:04:36,770 --> 01:04:35,099
multiples even more than one

1644
01:04:38,750 --> 01:04:36,780
well going back to Dogman we've always

1645
01:04:40,910 --> 01:04:38,760
talked about that one story of like

1646
01:04:42,289 --> 01:04:40,920
there was six or seven in the yard yeah

1647
01:04:43,910 --> 01:04:42,299
moved up around those people's houses

1648
01:04:45,410 --> 01:04:43,920
and then you know yeah you don't ever

1649
01:04:48,049 --> 01:04:45,420
hear about that either it's always there

1650
01:04:49,730 --> 01:04:48,059
to be singles I guess it could happen I

1651
01:04:51,890 --> 01:04:49,740
just I don't remember reading anywhere

1652
01:04:53,870 --> 01:04:51,900
where it did yeah

1653
01:04:56,030 --> 01:04:53,880
now multiple bigfoots seem to be a thing

1654
01:04:57,470 --> 01:04:56,040
they seem to be more like family units

1655
01:05:00,289 --> 01:04:57,480
if you come across those things like

1656
01:05:02,690 --> 01:05:00,299
that but not crawlers I don't need we

1657
01:05:04,609 --> 01:05:02,700
don't need to pass on a crawler it's a

1658
01:05:07,549 --> 01:05:04,619
bad news

1659
01:05:10,789 --> 01:05:07,559
those crawlers freaked me out it's not

1660
01:05:12,710 --> 01:05:10,799
cool yeah I uh you know and the more and

1661
01:05:15,349 --> 01:05:12,720
more I've talked to people about it who

1662
01:05:18,470 --> 01:05:15,359
have had encounters it's like

1663
01:05:20,809 --> 01:05:18,480
you know and this all started with with

1664
01:05:24,770 --> 01:05:20,819
this Penelope sightings that were going

1665
01:05:27,710 --> 01:05:24,780
on up in the Sierras and the um you know

1666
01:05:30,410 --> 01:05:27,720
that started getting out and then it

1667
01:05:33,049 --> 01:05:30,420
just seemed like it just spread all of a

1668
01:05:36,190 --> 01:05:33,059
sudden people were seeing these things

1669
01:05:38,990 --> 01:05:36,200
yeah I don't know oh

1670
01:05:41,750 --> 01:05:39,000
no I don't that's definitely something I

1671
01:05:43,309 --> 01:05:41,760
do not want to witness no me neither I'm

1672
01:05:46,849 --> 01:05:43,319
out neither

1673
01:05:49,549 --> 01:05:46,859
uh Mitzi do you think

1674
01:05:52,970 --> 01:05:49,559
the Chicago flying humanoid flap will be

1675
01:05:54,410 --> 01:05:52,980
ending in the near time future you know

1676
01:05:57,589 --> 01:05:54,420
what

1677
01:06:00,890 --> 01:05:57,599
I I keep saying that it's going to wane

1678
01:06:03,950 --> 01:06:00,900
it's gonna stop eventually

1679
01:06:07,549 --> 01:06:03,960
but it just never freaking ends I mean

1680
01:06:08,750 --> 01:06:07,559
it just keeps on going I don't know what

1681
01:06:13,309 --> 01:06:08,760
do you guys think about it everything

1682
01:06:16,069 --> 01:06:13,319
eventually ends everything yeah but this

1683
01:06:19,430 --> 01:06:16,079
I don't want to say this but I'm going

1684
01:06:20,690 --> 01:06:19,440
to I don't think we've seen the peak of

1685
01:06:23,210 --> 01:06:20,700
it yet

1686
01:06:26,270 --> 01:06:23,220
I don't think we've seen it Spike I

1687
01:06:28,309 --> 01:06:26,280
think that it is still building and

1688
01:06:31,549 --> 01:06:28,319
still building because

1689
01:06:33,650 --> 01:06:31,559
I thought it was it just doesn't feel

1690
01:06:34,970 --> 01:06:33,660
like it's letting up I thought it was

1691
01:06:40,670 --> 01:06:34,980
going to end when the Cubs won the World

1692
01:06:48,950 --> 01:06:44,630
that's funny yeah he was hoping that

1693
01:06:51,890 --> 01:06:48,960
didn't stop at least yeah yeah

1694
01:06:53,630 --> 01:06:51,900
that was a that was a misnumer anyway I

1695
01:06:55,010 --> 01:06:53,640
mean you know who the hell I ever

1696
01:06:56,930 --> 01:06:55,020
thought the Cubs are going to win the

1697
01:06:58,789 --> 01:06:56,940
world I never thought I'd see that never

1698
01:07:01,549 --> 01:06:58,799
thought glad I did

1699
01:07:01,559 --> 01:07:04,130
um

1700
01:07:09,230 --> 01:07:07,309
uh what do you this is from AG what do

1701
01:07:11,750 --> 01:07:09,240
you guys think of the Jersey Devil

1702
01:07:14,870 --> 01:07:11,760
similar to the Mothman

1703
01:07:16,190 --> 01:07:14,880
oh that's a that's another one oh now

1704
01:07:19,069 --> 01:07:16,200
that's another one like I'm very

1705
01:07:20,930 --> 01:07:19,079
interested in that because uh uh as you

1706
01:07:22,730 --> 01:07:20,940
mentioned in my bio my whole family's

1707
01:07:25,130 --> 01:07:22,740
from New Jersey and I grew up here but

1708
01:07:26,630 --> 01:07:25,140
like so as a little boy uh every time

1709
01:07:29,150 --> 01:07:26,640
every year we know we would go up there

1710
01:07:30,349 --> 01:07:29,160
to visit relatives uh my uncles and

1711
01:07:33,589 --> 01:07:30,359
stuff they would always tell me stories

1712
01:07:35,809 --> 01:07:33,599
of the Jersey Devil and you know as most

1713
01:07:37,069 --> 01:07:35,819
uncles do they just like to tease you

1714
01:07:39,349 --> 01:07:37,079
about it but I have one Uncle up there

1715
01:07:41,450 --> 01:07:39,359
that he believes in it and he's like he

1716
01:07:42,890 --> 01:07:41,460
won't go in the woods by himself without

1717
01:07:44,270 --> 01:07:42,900
his hunting dogs and stuff like that

1718
01:07:46,190 --> 01:07:44,280
because he's actually he's pretty scared

1719
01:07:47,750 --> 01:07:46,200
of the thing I don't remember I'm trying

1720
01:07:50,569 --> 01:07:47,760
to remember now if he said he heard it

1721
01:07:51,770 --> 01:07:50,579
one time I know he never saw it but

1722
01:07:53,990 --> 01:07:51,780
something freaked him out in the Pine

1723
01:07:56,690 --> 01:07:54,000
Barrens one time when he was hunting

1724
01:07:58,370 --> 01:07:56,700
and uh he definitely believes it so but

1725
01:08:00,170 --> 01:07:58,380
there is so there is a folklore to the

1726
01:08:02,450 --> 01:08:00,180
area now of course the stories range

1727
01:08:06,109 --> 01:08:02,460
from the thing has Hooves to the thing

1728
01:08:08,750 --> 01:08:06,119
has a pig like snout on it you know

1729
01:08:10,490 --> 01:08:08,760
other people say it's more bat-like out

1730
01:08:12,170 --> 01:08:10,500
like you know it's depicted as having

1731
01:08:13,670 --> 01:08:12,180
wings other people say it doesn't have

1732
01:08:15,829 --> 01:08:13,680
wings

1733
01:08:18,530 --> 01:08:15,839
I don't know I think a lot of the

1734
01:08:21,110 --> 01:08:18,540
sightings took place though in early

1735
01:08:23,390 --> 01:08:21,120
20th century I don't think that there's

1736
01:08:24,890 --> 01:08:23,400
been any like I haven't seen any recent

1737
01:08:26,930 --> 01:08:24,900
sightings of the Jersey Devil nothing

1738
01:08:29,930 --> 01:08:26,940
compelling all the stories were from

1739
01:08:32,329 --> 01:08:29,940
long ago well I have had some police

1740
01:08:35,809 --> 01:08:32,339
officers in the area who have seen

1741
01:08:37,370 --> 01:08:35,819
something oh yeah um yeah

1742
01:08:39,470 --> 01:08:37,380
um

1743
01:08:41,209 --> 01:08:39,480
they can't they don't understand what

1744
01:08:43,130 --> 01:08:41,219
the hell it is and

1745
01:08:45,530 --> 01:08:43,140
if they can't figure it out I don't know

1746
01:08:47,030 --> 01:08:45,540
you know but apparently there have been

1747
01:08:50,630 --> 01:08:47,040
there have been some more recent

1748
01:08:51,530 --> 01:08:50,640
sightings of these things I you know the

1749
01:08:59,510 --> 01:08:51,540
whole

1750
01:09:01,130 --> 01:08:59,520
Legend but

1751
01:09:03,050 --> 01:09:01,140
there were sightings of something

1752
01:09:04,849 --> 01:09:03,060
similar to that down in the eastern

1753
01:09:06,590 --> 01:09:04,859
shore of Maryland before all that

1754
01:09:09,490 --> 01:09:06,600
started in New Jersey

1755
01:09:13,309 --> 01:09:09,500
and uh I mean I've traced all this back

1756
01:09:15,890 --> 01:09:13,319
even before the the Leeds Legend

1757
01:09:17,510 --> 01:09:15,900
uh it seemed like something started down

1758
01:09:19,130 --> 01:09:17,520
there and started moving up toward New

1759
01:09:20,450 --> 01:09:19,140
Jersey now I don't know if there's a

1760
01:09:23,209 --> 01:09:20,460
connection or not

1761
01:09:24,950 --> 01:09:23,219
uh when you start talking about the pine

1762
01:09:27,829 --> 01:09:24,960
bearings and all the craziness that

1763
01:09:30,229 --> 01:09:27,839
happens in the Pine Barrens anyway uh

1764
01:09:33,289 --> 01:09:30,239
let alone all the the mafia bodies that

1765
01:09:36,490 --> 01:09:33,299
are stuck in there but you know it's you

1766
01:09:41,809 --> 01:09:39,289
yeah huh

1767
01:09:43,249 --> 01:09:41,819
what's that it's like the that whole

1768
01:09:44,930 --> 01:09:43,259
area and the pine Barons is like the

1769
01:09:48,709 --> 01:09:44,940
deserts outside of Las Vegas yeah well

1770
01:09:52,309 --> 01:09:50,450
get a hole in Vegas you don't find

1771
01:09:55,729 --> 01:09:52,319
anything oh yeah look at Lake Mead's

1772
01:09:58,970 --> 01:09:55,739
been drying up here

1773
01:10:01,370 --> 01:09:58,980
yeah again more Darkness whatever it was

1774
01:10:04,790 --> 01:10:01,380
it was living in in a good spot of

1775
01:10:06,610 --> 01:10:04,800
Darkness right right well you know The

1776
01:10:10,850 --> 01:10:06,620
Sopranos didn't help the whole

1777
01:10:14,510 --> 01:10:10,860
pioneering thing either true story

1778
01:10:16,850 --> 01:10:14,520
idea uh we've got another one Randy

1779
01:10:19,729 --> 01:10:16,860
Alexander any gargoyle settings you know

1780
01:10:21,709 --> 01:10:19,739
any gargle settings that I'm beginning

1781
01:10:23,030 --> 01:10:21,719
are associated with the winged humanoid

1782
01:10:25,130 --> 01:10:23,040
thing yeah

1783
01:10:26,390 --> 01:10:25,140
especially in Chicago because we've had

1784
01:10:29,330 --> 01:10:26,400
people

1785
01:10:30,290 --> 01:10:29,340
uh actually described him as being Gordo

1786
01:10:32,810 --> 01:10:30,300
like

1787
01:10:34,669 --> 01:10:32,820
and you know a different name for a

1788
01:10:37,189 --> 01:10:34,679
similar described creature you know

1789
01:10:39,890 --> 01:10:37,199
George is here they're gargoyles over

1790
01:10:41,030 --> 01:10:39,900
here yeah they're Jeepers Creepers over

1791
01:10:42,410 --> 01:10:41,040
here you know they just go by different

1792
01:10:43,790 --> 01:10:42,420
names but it's I mean I think it's all

1793
01:10:45,350 --> 01:10:43,800
the same thing

1794
01:10:46,610 --> 01:10:45,360
it seems to be in that yeah when you

1795
01:10:48,590 --> 01:10:46,620
look back in history that's kind of what

1796
01:10:50,270 --> 01:10:48,600
you have to think is the gargles are the

1797
01:10:51,649 --> 01:10:50,280
the winged humanoids that we're seeing

1798
01:10:55,850 --> 01:10:51,659
now

1799
01:10:57,590 --> 01:10:55,860
I think so I I think they're I

1800
01:10:59,930 --> 01:10:57,600
it's like Kyle was discussing that's the

1801
01:11:02,030 --> 01:10:59,940
only way that they had to name them to

1802
01:11:05,149 --> 01:11:02,040
describe them back then yeah they had to

1803
01:11:07,850 --> 01:11:05,159
refer to something other than what you

1804
01:11:10,970 --> 01:11:07,860
know that happens all the time oh yeah

1805
01:11:13,729 --> 01:11:10,980
sure sure um you know just on my people

1806
01:11:15,530 --> 01:11:13,739
were telling me and you know the people

1807
01:11:17,090 --> 01:11:15,540
on the team who have been investigating

1808
01:11:19,189 --> 01:11:17,100
this with me

1809
01:11:21,410 --> 01:11:19,199
that we've all had that people say they

1810
01:11:26,390 --> 01:11:21,420
look like Jeepers Creepers or you know

1811
01:11:28,490 --> 01:11:26,400
that that thing on in the movies and um

1812
01:11:31,790 --> 01:11:28,500
even when we had sightings of these

1813
01:11:33,970 --> 01:11:31,800
things out in the Navajo reservation the

1814
01:11:36,890 --> 01:11:33,980
Jeepers Creepers thing came up back then

1815
01:11:38,990 --> 01:11:36,900
uh we had sightings of winged humanoids

1816
01:11:41,090 --> 01:11:39,000
down in Pasco County Florida we had the

1817
01:11:45,169 --> 01:11:41,100
three sightings down there around the

1818
01:11:45,830 --> 01:11:45,179
same time 2017 uh Jeepers Creepers I

1819
01:11:48,050 --> 01:11:45,840
mean

1820
01:11:50,570 --> 01:11:48,060
can people associate these things with

1821
01:11:52,310 --> 01:11:50,580
something that they're familiar with and

1822
01:11:54,290 --> 01:11:52,320
just like with The Predator thing you

1823
01:11:55,669 --> 01:11:54,300
know of course when they started seeing

1824
01:11:57,590 --> 01:11:55,679
the Glimmer Man that's what they

1825
01:11:59,030 --> 01:11:57,600
associated with so right because that's

1826
01:12:00,350 --> 01:11:59,040
the only way they had to describe it you

1827
01:12:01,910 --> 01:12:00,360
know absolutely and you can tell someone

1828
01:12:03,770 --> 01:12:01,920
that they instantly know hey have you

1829
01:12:05,930 --> 01:12:03,780
seen that movie that's exactly what it

1830
01:12:07,310 --> 01:12:05,940
looked like you know and instead of hey

1831
01:12:08,810 --> 01:12:07,320
did you see that carving on top of that

1832
01:12:10,610 --> 01:12:08,820
church well that's exactly what it

1833
01:12:13,850 --> 01:12:10,620
looked like I always think of these like

1834
01:12:15,890 --> 01:12:13,860
lost in tribes that are in the Congo or

1835
01:12:17,209 --> 01:12:15,900
in the Amazon like maybe they're aware

1836
01:12:18,530 --> 01:12:17,219
of some of these Cryptids they just

1837
01:12:20,870 --> 01:12:18,540
don't ever tell anybody because they

1838
01:12:23,570 --> 01:12:20,880
don't know to tell anybody like if Von

1839
01:12:24,950 --> 01:12:23,580
was to come visit me in Texas I know

1840
01:12:26,810 --> 01:12:24,960
they don't have armadillos in

1841
01:12:28,130 --> 01:12:26,820
Pennsylvania so he came I'd be like hey

1842
01:12:31,070 --> 01:12:28,140
you want to check out an animal that we

1843
01:12:32,870 --> 01:12:31,080
see all the time here's an armadillo but

1844
01:12:34,970 --> 01:12:32,880
if you're an outsider and you visit one

1845
01:12:36,110 --> 01:12:34,980
of these tribes they don't know that you

1846
01:12:38,390 --> 01:12:36,120
don't know what some of these creatures

1847
01:12:40,490 --> 01:12:38,400
are so they would never even think to

1848
01:12:42,590 --> 01:12:40,500
tell you that oh yeah there's dinosaurs

1849
01:12:44,090 --> 01:12:42,600
back there and there's Wendy's over

1850
01:12:45,470 --> 01:12:44,100
there you've got them at your house sure

1851
01:12:47,510 --> 01:12:45,480
they would never occur to them they even

1852
01:12:48,410 --> 01:12:47,520
tell you so when an outdaughter comes in

1853
01:12:50,149 --> 01:12:48,420
you know they give them some free

1854
01:12:51,770 --> 01:12:50,159
t-shirts give them some Subway

1855
01:12:53,149 --> 01:12:51,780
sandwiches give them a couple Yankee

1856
01:12:56,330 --> 01:12:53,159
cats they don't ever

1857
01:12:58,850 --> 01:12:56,340
yeah it never bonds them so maybe these

1858
01:13:01,250 --> 01:12:58,860
indigenous cultures people out there in

1859
01:13:03,290 --> 01:13:01,260
these lost areas of you know Papua New

1860
01:13:05,090 --> 01:13:03,300
Guinea and stuff maybe they know that oh

1861
01:13:06,830 --> 01:13:05,100
yeah there's a ring pin deck still here

1862
01:13:08,090 --> 01:13:06,840
and I remember seeing the video a couple

1863
01:13:10,010 --> 01:13:08,100
years ago where the guy was only called

1864
01:13:11,030 --> 01:13:10,020
a scooter and looked like one ran across

1865
01:13:13,070 --> 01:13:11,040
the road

1866
01:13:14,530 --> 01:13:13,080
maybe they're there yeah

1867
01:13:16,970 --> 01:13:14,540
yeah

1868
01:13:19,610 --> 01:13:16,980
that was a story came out of India where

1869
01:13:21,770 --> 01:13:19,620
these guys were they saw the um

1870
01:13:23,330 --> 01:13:21,780
the wild man crossing in front of them

1871
01:13:25,610 --> 01:13:23,340
as they were on their scooters but you

1872
01:13:27,649 --> 01:13:25,620
hear about a lot of that you do and uh

1873
01:13:30,530 --> 01:13:27,659
you're right you know you gotta Wonder

1874
01:13:32,390 --> 01:13:30,540
in the deepest part of Africa what

1875
01:13:34,070 --> 01:13:32,400
they're seeing and if they're the things

1876
01:13:35,990 --> 01:13:34,080
that do get leaked out if they're

1877
01:13:37,790 --> 01:13:36,000
actually there

1878
01:13:39,770 --> 01:13:37,800
um

1879
01:13:43,430 --> 01:13:39,780
you know you remember that movie baby

1880
01:13:46,010 --> 01:13:43,440
that was out years ago uh about the the

1881
01:13:48,709 --> 01:13:46,020
dinosaur that was seen in the Congo or

1882
01:13:51,770 --> 01:13:48,719
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah

1883
01:13:54,229 --> 01:13:51,780
um I guess you gotta wonder if if people

1884
01:13:55,790 --> 01:13:54,239
are actually seeing these things or that

1885
01:13:57,410 --> 01:13:55,800
they're so used to them it's just part

1886
01:13:59,030 --> 01:13:57,420
of their culture and then when you hear

1887
01:14:00,350 --> 01:13:59,040
about it it's like

1888
01:14:02,630 --> 01:14:00,360
I don't know what the hell they're

1889
01:14:03,709 --> 01:14:02,640
seeing yeah God knows what else that

1890
01:14:05,030 --> 01:14:03,719
lives out there that they're aware of

1891
01:14:07,510 --> 01:14:05,040
that they just never think of everybody

1892
01:14:10,790 --> 01:14:07,520
yeah yeah

1893
01:14:12,830 --> 01:14:10,800
uh AG wants to know if we ever you guys

1894
01:14:15,970 --> 01:14:12,840
are me ever planning on doing a show on

1895
01:14:20,990 --> 01:14:18,410
I think we have done one I mean we've

1896
01:14:23,090 --> 01:14:21,000
been doing the show for 10 years so yeah

1897
01:14:25,430 --> 01:14:23,100
uh you can go back and look at our

1898
01:14:26,510 --> 01:14:25,440
entire catalog you could hold a gun on

1899
01:14:29,649 --> 01:14:26,520
me right now and I couldn't tell you

1900
01:14:35,030 --> 01:14:31,910
I think they all come together they're

1901
01:14:36,830 --> 01:14:35,040
all one big episode in my mind I get it

1902
01:14:39,709 --> 01:14:36,840
I understand I mean it's almost like

1903
01:14:42,950 --> 01:14:39,719
it's an incidental thing if it pops up

1904
01:14:44,750 --> 01:14:42,960
in a uh if it pops up in a in you know

1905
01:14:46,850 --> 01:14:44,760
in a show and we'll talk about it but

1906
01:14:49,550 --> 01:14:46,860
it's not necessarily something I really

1907
01:14:51,890 --> 01:14:49,560
concentrated only to do I guess I had to

1908
01:14:54,530 --> 01:14:51,900
find the way to do this or to find

1909
01:14:56,630 --> 01:14:54,540
people who are actually

1910
01:14:58,910 --> 01:14:56,640
you know that's part of the real

1911
01:15:00,649 --> 01:14:58,920
investigation yeah yeah you know the the

1912
01:15:02,330 --> 01:15:00,659
thing that's been going on that people

1913
01:15:04,550 --> 01:15:02,340
have been seeing much more now in the

1914
01:15:06,290 --> 01:15:04,560
Pine Barrens area has been Bigfoot and

1915
01:15:08,030 --> 01:15:06,300
we've gotten a lot of Bigfoot sightings

1916
01:15:10,850 --> 01:15:08,040
down there

1917
01:15:12,590 --> 01:15:10,860
um but as far as the Jersey Devil let's

1918
01:15:14,510 --> 01:15:12,600
just see something that pops up here and

1919
01:15:16,850 --> 01:15:14,520
there people say oh you know well we saw

1920
01:15:18,890 --> 01:15:16,860
this we saw that and of course you get a

1921
01:15:21,430 --> 01:15:18,900
lot of these sightings in that that

1922
01:15:24,530 --> 01:15:21,440
southern New Jersey area that

1923
01:15:26,270 --> 01:15:24,540
uh people say hey that the first thing

1924
01:15:27,709 --> 01:15:26,280
you see something flying or something it

1925
01:15:29,390 --> 01:15:27,719
looks like a horse with wings or

1926
01:15:32,689 --> 01:15:29,400
whatever you think well you know it's

1927
01:15:33,770 --> 01:15:32,699
the it's the Jersey Devil but uh I don't

1928
01:15:35,149 --> 01:15:33,780
know I think there's been a lot of

1929
01:15:37,790 --> 01:15:35,159
misidentification I think we could

1930
01:15:39,229 --> 01:15:37,800
easily say it's Mothman by now we did do

1931
01:15:41,510 --> 01:15:39,239
the Jersey Devil we did do a Jersey

1932
01:15:43,550 --> 01:15:41,520
Devil episode it appeared on November 13

1933
01:15:45,890 --> 01:15:43,560
2016.

1934
01:15:47,810 --> 01:15:45,900
you can just Google it

1935
01:15:49,390 --> 01:15:47,820
well there you go there it is if you

1936
01:15:51,830 --> 01:15:49,400
want to look there you go

1937
01:15:53,770 --> 01:15:51,840
I'll think about it I might I may do

1938
01:15:56,990 --> 01:15:53,780
something at one point

1939
01:16:00,890 --> 01:15:57,000
uh Corey nicklaw

1940
01:16:03,050 --> 01:16:00,900
any thoughts not on the not deer like

1941
01:16:05,209 --> 01:16:03,060
that are possibly Skinwalker you know

1942
01:16:07,250 --> 01:16:05,219
that not deer thing just freaks me out

1943
01:16:08,870 --> 01:16:07,260
yeah that's another one that's cool

1944
01:16:10,850 --> 01:16:08,880
never really heard about it a couple

1945
01:16:13,370 --> 01:16:10,860
years ago and it's like yeah now just

1946
01:16:16,070 --> 01:16:13,380
more and more sightings are being sent

1947
01:16:17,930 --> 01:16:16,080
to us well it seems to me that we've

1948
01:16:21,290 --> 01:16:17,940
been good we we first started getting

1949
01:16:23,990 --> 01:16:21,300
sightings on the Appalachia Trail or up

1950
01:16:25,790 --> 01:16:24,000
in Appalachia and um

1951
01:16:28,970 --> 01:16:25,800
that's where it'll seemed to be the

1952
01:16:32,090 --> 01:16:28,980
Nexus of the sightings mostly down in um

1953
01:16:33,410 --> 01:16:32,100
West Virginia Virginia South Southwest

1954
01:16:36,649 --> 01:16:33,420
Virginia

1955
01:16:39,410 --> 01:16:36,659
down into the Smokies we'd get a a not

1956
01:16:42,050 --> 01:16:39,420
deer sighting but it's kind of expanded

1957
01:16:44,270 --> 01:16:42,060
out since then and uh

1958
01:16:46,669 --> 01:16:44,280
we had a for a while there I was getting

1959
01:16:48,590 --> 01:16:46,679
a lot of sightings in Colorado so yeah I

1960
01:16:51,470 --> 01:16:48,600
I don't know what the hell that is you

1961
01:16:53,870 --> 01:16:51,480
know you think people say well it's it's

1962
01:16:55,970 --> 01:16:53,880
it's it's it's a diseased deer or

1963
01:16:59,270 --> 01:16:55,980
something else going on could have been

1964
01:17:01,130 --> 01:16:59,280
a mutation well you know there's a lot

1965
01:17:02,689 --> 01:17:01,140
of inner breeding within the deer

1966
01:17:04,610 --> 01:17:02,699
populations I mean there's so many

1967
01:17:08,149 --> 01:17:04,620
whitetail deer in particular in this

1968
01:17:10,729 --> 01:17:08,159
country it's just nuts and uh here in

1969
01:17:13,790 --> 01:17:10,739
the east coast I mean it's like a plague

1970
01:17:15,590 --> 01:17:13,800
oh yeah but you know with all those deer

1971
01:17:17,390 --> 01:17:15,600
you got to figure something weird's

1972
01:17:19,790 --> 01:17:17,400
gonna show up once in a while so I don't

1973
01:17:22,490 --> 01:17:19,800
know well seeing how how they react with

1974
01:17:24,229 --> 01:17:22,500
CWD as compared to whatever tell them

1975
01:17:27,169 --> 01:17:24,239
what these people it's chronic wasting

1976
01:17:29,570 --> 01:17:27,179
disease right so when you see them how

1977
01:17:31,430 --> 01:17:29,580
deer act with CWD as compared to what

1978
01:17:33,290 --> 01:17:31,440
people report to the not deer it's not

1979
01:17:36,050 --> 01:17:33,300
even remotely close to the same thing no

1980
01:17:39,530 --> 01:17:36,060
no it's different yeah it's very

1981
01:17:42,770 --> 01:17:39,540
different and it is again it's almost

1982
01:17:45,470 --> 01:17:42,780
like whatever that is is trying to hide

1983
01:17:47,030 --> 01:17:45,480
from you what it's doing is to just fool

1984
01:17:49,310 --> 01:17:47,040
you just enough to where you don't

1985
01:17:51,590 --> 01:17:49,320
really notice it but what they don't

1986
01:17:53,810 --> 01:17:51,600
realize is it instantly stands out

1987
01:17:56,330 --> 01:17:53,820
people are so used to seeing deer that

1988
01:17:58,010 --> 01:17:56,340
what it thinks it's doing it instantly

1989
01:18:00,290 --> 01:17:58,020
stands out people instantly are like

1990
01:18:01,669 --> 01:18:00,300
well its legs shouldn't been like that I

1991
01:18:04,729 --> 01:18:01,679
don't know why its head looks like that

1992
01:18:07,130 --> 01:18:04,739
why is its neck longer like none of it

1993
01:18:08,930 --> 01:18:07,140
makes sense none of it with the not deer

1994
01:18:11,330 --> 01:18:08,940
they are extremely disturbing yeah

1995
01:18:14,110 --> 01:18:11,340
extremely disturbing and they seem to be

1996
01:18:17,209 --> 01:18:14,120
limited as far as like we don't get

1997
01:18:18,950 --> 01:18:17,219
there's not a ton of reports of them no

1998
01:18:20,689 --> 01:18:18,960
there aren't so that's another thing

1999
01:18:22,010 --> 01:18:20,699
that makes me be like it's even more

2000
01:18:24,050 --> 01:18:22,020
disturbing because they're few and far

2001
01:18:25,910 --> 01:18:24,060
between when people see them but they

2002
01:18:27,110 --> 01:18:25,920
yet they all report seeing the exact

2003
01:18:29,030 --> 01:18:27,120
same thing

2004
01:18:30,649 --> 01:18:29,040
well of course we most the signs come

2005
01:18:32,149 --> 01:18:30,659
from Hunters I mean they see these

2006
01:18:35,030 --> 01:18:32,159
things out there and they're wondering

2007
01:18:36,169 --> 01:18:35,040
what the hell did I run across uh I I

2008
01:18:37,310 --> 01:18:36,179
think the thing that freaks them out

2009
01:18:40,550 --> 01:18:37,320
more than anything is the

2010
01:18:44,149 --> 01:18:40,560
forward-looking eyes yes yeah uh I'm not

2011
01:18:45,649 --> 01:18:44,159
gonna freaking me out yes only thing

2012
01:18:46,729 --> 01:18:45,659
that looks forward is Predators folks

2013
01:18:48,470 --> 01:18:46,739
that's it

2014
01:18:50,870 --> 01:18:48,480
forward-looking eyes are predators

2015
01:18:52,430 --> 01:18:50,880
that's how that works everything on its

2016
01:18:55,630 --> 01:18:52,440
side is trying to defend itself from

2017
01:18:59,990 --> 01:18:55,640
predators yeah

2018
01:19:02,030 --> 01:19:00,000
uh disco stew BC do you think dog man

2019
01:19:04,070 --> 01:19:02,040
Bigfoot humanoids

2020
01:19:06,709 --> 01:19:04,080
are responsible for the majority of

2021
01:19:09,050 --> 01:19:06,719
missing people reports oh God

2022
01:19:10,790 --> 01:19:09,060
that's a whole can of worms there I

2023
01:19:14,750 --> 01:19:10,800
don't think we have time to unpack this

2024
01:19:16,850 --> 01:19:14,760
yeah I agree that's a whole we go down

2025
01:19:19,729 --> 01:19:16,860
the missing people hole that's a whole

2026
01:19:22,430 --> 01:19:19,739
other show in itself because that opens

2027
01:19:24,649 --> 01:19:22,440
up doors to possible Time Slips to

2028
01:19:27,709 --> 01:19:24,659
possible Fey where they talk about

2029
01:19:29,870 --> 01:19:27,719
Granite fields and crazy all of this

2030
01:19:32,330 --> 01:19:29,880
stuff could go crazy I mean we get

2031
01:19:34,430 --> 01:19:32,340
reports where even in the missing 4-1-1

2032
01:19:37,130 --> 01:19:34,440
books and whatnot where they talk about

2033
01:19:39,290 --> 01:19:37,140
the kids reporting Bears carrying them

2034
01:19:41,689 --> 01:19:39,300
off well bear don't carry things in its

2035
01:19:43,250 --> 01:19:41,699
hands they carry things in their face so

2036
01:19:45,290 --> 01:19:43,260
they're not going to gather you up and

2037
01:19:48,229 --> 01:19:45,300
run off with you or the Guerrilla men

2038
01:19:50,630 --> 01:19:48,239
took me here or all of these I mean yeah

2039
01:19:54,530 --> 01:19:50,640
we could go on for hours on just that

2040
01:19:57,110 --> 01:19:54,540
because that is a huge mystery of work

2041
01:19:59,689 --> 01:19:57,120
and of course let's not forget accidents

2042
01:20:02,689 --> 01:19:59,699
happen Mother Nature is a

2043
01:20:04,310 --> 01:20:02,699
Sheed is unrelenting so you make a

2044
01:20:06,169 --> 01:20:04,320
mistake out there in anywhere in the

2045
01:20:08,270 --> 01:20:06,179
back country or just anything you'd be

2046
01:20:10,970 --> 01:20:08,280
surprised how fast exposure can take you

2047
01:20:12,530 --> 01:20:10,980
out of the game just yeah we're not near

2048
01:20:15,110 --> 01:20:12,540
as tough as we like to believe we are

2049
01:20:17,390 --> 01:20:15,120
when it comes to being in the wilds and

2050
01:20:19,189 --> 01:20:17,400
for whatever reason like they they a lot

2051
01:20:21,470 --> 01:20:19,199
of the adults they find are I mean don't

2052
01:20:23,450 --> 01:20:21,480
find are dead but the children not so

2053
01:20:25,550 --> 01:20:23,460
much I think my favorite stories are not

2054
01:20:27,050 --> 01:20:25,560
the fact the missing people but like the

2055
01:20:29,270 --> 01:20:27,060
children that went missing for a time

2056
01:20:30,770 --> 01:20:29,280
they're later founded in the area where

2057
01:20:33,050 --> 01:20:30,780
search and rescue workers already

2058
01:20:35,570 --> 01:20:33,060
searched numerous times or they're found

2059
01:20:37,850 --> 01:20:35,580
miles and miles away their clothes is

2060
01:20:41,149 --> 01:20:37,860
put on backwards inside out like just

2061
01:20:43,070 --> 01:20:41,159
their ears are clean no shoes yeah like

2062
01:20:45,050 --> 01:20:43,080
a three-year-old traveled two miles

2063
01:20:47,330 --> 01:20:45,060
through two Creeks through a barbed wire

2064
01:20:50,149 --> 01:20:47,340
fence and whatever reason they go up in

2065
01:20:51,890 --> 01:20:50,159
elevation you know and when sometimes

2066
01:20:54,410 --> 01:20:51,900
when they find these adults

2067
01:20:55,790 --> 01:20:54,420
that are still alive they're like under

2068
01:20:57,770 --> 01:20:55,800
a trance

2069
01:20:59,149 --> 01:20:57,780
the favorite something put them in a

2070
01:21:01,430 --> 01:20:59,159
trance they don't remember what happened

2071
01:21:02,689 --> 01:21:01,440
to them you know and that's just very

2072
01:21:04,630 --> 01:21:02,699
bizarre especially for some of these

2073
01:21:07,130 --> 01:21:04,640
people that are experienced Outdoors or

2074
01:21:09,530 --> 01:21:07,140
outdoorsmen Hunters hikers things like

2075
01:21:10,790 --> 01:21:09,540
that for them to not know to go down

2076
01:21:12,229 --> 01:21:10,800
everybody knows if you're stuck in the

2077
01:21:14,330 --> 01:21:12,239
on a mountain you go down that's where

2078
01:21:16,729 --> 01:21:14,340
the towns are you don't go up it only

2079
01:21:19,669 --> 01:21:16,739
gets colder there's less resources not a

2080
01:21:21,229 --> 01:21:19,679
lot of water up there you know I've got

2081
01:21:24,350 --> 01:21:21,239
General Vincent right now to make a note

2082
01:21:26,270 --> 01:21:24,360
let's do a a missing 4-1-1 show or

2083
01:21:27,290 --> 01:21:26,280
something like that I I gotta do

2084
01:21:31,070 --> 01:21:27,300
something

2085
01:21:32,810 --> 01:21:31,080
yeah oh okay absolutely I'd love to have

2086
01:21:34,850 --> 01:21:32,820
you guys come on talk about that that'd

2087
01:21:37,010 --> 01:21:34,860
be great uh you know I had a big

2088
01:21:38,390 --> 01:21:37,020
argument with David Pilates about a

2089
01:21:40,189 --> 01:21:38,400
dozen years ago

2090
01:21:42,410 --> 01:21:40,199
when he first started coming out with

2091
01:21:44,450 --> 01:21:42,420
this and I I mentioned on my blog about

2092
01:21:47,630 --> 01:21:44,460
well I think maybe Bigfoot may have been

2093
01:21:48,709 --> 01:21:47,640
part of that and he jumped all over me

2094
01:21:51,850 --> 01:21:48,719
about that

2095
01:21:56,270 --> 01:21:51,860
but now he's talking about it you know

2096
01:21:58,010 --> 01:21:56,280
you know and it's like well you know why

2097
01:22:00,470 --> 01:21:58,020
did you give me such a

2098
01:22:02,390 --> 01:22:00,480
bunch of crap about it back then but

2099
01:22:05,149 --> 01:22:02,400
yeah I guess maybe

2100
01:22:06,790 --> 01:22:05,159
you know time changes people's minds to

2101
01:22:08,990 --> 01:22:06,800
a point I don't know well I don't know

2102
01:22:10,970 --> 01:22:09,000
I'm pretty sure before those books

2103
01:22:13,250 --> 01:22:10,980
started coming out that his project his

2104
01:22:15,770 --> 01:22:13,260
website was kind of Bigfoot related yeah

2105
01:22:17,149 --> 01:22:15,780
it was yeah it was oh when his books

2106
01:22:18,229 --> 01:22:17,159
came out it was just like well why

2107
01:22:20,270 --> 01:22:18,239
wouldn't I assume that's what you're

2108
01:22:22,130 --> 01:22:20,280
getting at I mean it never really tells

2109
01:22:23,510 --> 01:22:22,140
you he doesn't give you any answers to

2110
01:22:25,790 --> 01:22:23,520
what his you know he is it kind of

2111
01:22:27,169 --> 01:22:25,800
leaves it open to interpretation which I

2112
01:22:28,430 --> 01:22:27,179
can appreciate but then you can't really

2113
01:22:30,050 --> 01:22:28,440
get mad if somebody thinks that that's

2114
01:22:32,270 --> 01:22:30,060
what you're implying yeah because that's

2115
01:22:35,270 --> 01:22:32,280
definitely what's implied well you know

2116
01:22:37,910 --> 01:22:35,280
that's that's him I mean you know he

2117
01:22:40,990 --> 01:22:37,920
does leave it kind of open-ended and he

2118
01:22:47,390 --> 01:22:44,209
let people do their own interpretation

2119
01:22:49,970 --> 01:22:47,400
of stuff that I write about or report

2120
01:22:52,669 --> 01:22:49,980
which I can understand because I I don't

2121
01:22:55,250 --> 01:22:52,679
want to really pigeonhole myself into a

2122
01:22:57,229 --> 01:22:55,260
theory for about everything yeah you

2123
01:23:00,169 --> 01:22:57,239
know I could but I'm just not going to

2124
01:23:02,090 --> 01:23:00,179
do that uh and maybe he's the same way

2125
01:23:04,130 --> 01:23:02,100
well you get so many stories that

2126
01:23:06,950 --> 01:23:04,140
literally it can change within 24 hours

2127
01:23:09,890 --> 01:23:06,960
sure that information I mean your hard

2128
01:23:12,290 --> 01:23:09,900
drive is probably physically heavy with

2129
01:23:14,890 --> 01:23:12,300
the amount of information that's in it

2130
01:23:18,709 --> 01:23:14,900
uh I'd kill a laptop every two years

2131
01:23:20,930 --> 01:23:18,719
yeah yeah yeah yeah I do I literally do

2132
01:23:23,750 --> 01:23:20,940
I mean it's it's like every two years I

2133
01:23:27,250 --> 01:23:23,760
gotta get a new laptop and it's it's I

2134
01:23:31,010 --> 01:23:27,260
just kill it I mean it just stops

2135
01:23:34,250 --> 01:23:31,020
yeah terrifying information yeah exactly

2136
01:23:37,070 --> 01:23:34,260
yeah well guys you know it's great

2137
01:23:39,110 --> 01:23:37,080
having you back on the show I I miss

2138
01:23:40,790 --> 01:23:39,120
talking to y'all I love having y'all

2139
01:23:44,990 --> 01:23:40,800
we're going to get you on more and more

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if we can sure uh we get these um we we

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get these round tables which we do more

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and more now I got to bring in on that

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as well uh if you can you know time yeah

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time permits and such but um

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yeah tell folks how they can get in

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01:24:01,910 --> 01:23:59,159
contact with you how they can access the

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podcast and whatever you want to say

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anywhere that y'all want to look and

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find podcasts anywhere you get them

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you're gonna find us look up expanded

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01:24:12,950 --> 01:24:11,040
perspectives we're on Spotify uh Apple

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01:24:14,750 --> 01:24:12,960
everything everywhere you can find it

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01:24:16,729 --> 01:24:14,760
we're on there we're on YouTube you can

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01:24:18,470 --> 01:24:16,739
pull us up we have Instagram Facebook we

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01:24:20,149 --> 01:24:18,480
got all the good stuff where you can

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01:24:22,250 --> 01:24:20,159
find us send us messages you can email

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01:24:24,709 --> 01:24:22,260
us at expanded perspectives yahoo.com

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you can send any message any stories

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that you have send them in and I want to

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take the time too to say everybody

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listening any story you have send them

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to wait where's the to this guy see this

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guy up here this is the man that

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collects the store this is the man you

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have to get them to make sure Lon has

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them he is the collector of the stories

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that will help us carry this on for

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Generations as it goes I mean Albert

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Rosales and Lon are the two that I

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always think of that those men have the

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Library of Alexandria of the strange and

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unusual so whatever you find whatever is

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01:25:02,510 --> 01:25:00,719
crazy make sure they get it you send it

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to us I'm going to tell you honestly

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01:25:06,830 --> 01:25:04,560
we're going to send it to him anyway so

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01:25:09,410 --> 01:25:06,840
if you want it you can just CC us both

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together so much easier however it works

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but yes that's the thing is like it is

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the best we've read it for years and

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years I mean I loved it love it

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Evolution I appreciate it guys yeah I

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love that word compared to the the

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Alexandria yeah

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but uh I I do appreciate it yeah we've

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known each other for quite a while so uh

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oh yeah absolutely absolutely

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so um hey again thanks for coming on and

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we're gonna we're gonna make this more

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01:25:48,110 --> 01:25:46,560
often and uh you know this is a great

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01:25:49,669 --> 01:25:48,120
show and I know everybody appreciate you

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01:25:51,290 --> 01:25:49,679
coming on and answering questions and

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01:25:52,970 --> 01:25:51,300
such so yeah you know we're getting

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together we always we don't have and

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01:25:56,450 --> 01:25:54,659
there's I mean we're going to talk about

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01:25:58,270 --> 01:25:56,460
something there's there's always so much

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out there

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01:26:02,870 --> 01:26:00,780
absolutely so you guys take it easy have

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a good weekend or a week and a good

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weekend and forward and uh we'll be

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foreign

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counter report uh that you'd like to be

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considered for the personal report show

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or for the fams of monsters blog or show

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uh feel free to forward to my email at

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lawn stricklerfamzammonsters.com I want

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to again thank Kyle thilson and uh cam

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01:26:35,750 --> 01:26:33,360
Hale for joining me this evening it was

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it was a pleasure having them on and

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thanks to each and all you for watching

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and chatting if you did make a donation

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is truly appreciated please like

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subscribe and share

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so this coming Friday night at 9 00 PM

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Eastern 6 p.m Pacific we're going to

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conduct an aquatic Cryptids Round Table

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and we're going to have four guests

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we're going to have Kenny Irish Ron

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Murphy Max Hawthorne and Steve calls is

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going to join us

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I haven't had Steve on the show before

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I've known Steve for a long time but

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I've never had him on the show that

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should be interesting and stay tuned for

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uh Vincent Richardson's V show here on

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fans monster radio 11 pm Eastern 10 p.m

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Central so until we meet again

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